🎙️Nalee's Hypothetical Hotline – Episode 13 - The Dream Trap (AUDIO ONLY) 🎙️

This week on Nalee's Hypothetical Hotline 📞, we're tackling a question that sounds simple on paper—but gets a whole lot messier in real life:

What happens when your dream job becomes the thing that's making you miserable?

You finally made it. The title. The company. The opportunity. The thing you've worked toward for years. Everyone around you sees success. 🎉

But behind the scenes?

You're exhausted. 😩
You're stressed. 😵‍💫
And you're starting to wonder if the dream you chased is quietly stealing your peace.

This episode dives into burnout, ambition, identity, and the pressure to keep pushing forward even when something isn't working anymore. We unpack the difference between leaving a job and abandoning a dream, and whether success is still success if it comes at the expense of your mental health.

Is walking away giving up?
Or is it choosing yourself?
And how much of who we are is tied to what we've accomplished?

Along the way, the conversation turns into a surprisingly emotional reflection on careers, personal growth, changing dreams, and what it means to redefine success as you get older. We also take a moment to celebrate one year of Twin Tangents 🎙️—reflecting on the podcast journey, our incredible listeners, and the fact that somehow we still haven't run out of things to talk about.

Because sometimes the biggest trap isn't failing.

It's succeeding at something that no longer makes you happy.

Takeaways we're taking to therapy:

• 🧠 Burnout is real, and ignoring it rarely ends well
• ⚖️ Choosing your peace isn't the same as giving up
• 🌱 Dreams can evolve as you evolve
• 💼 A job title shouldn't cost you your well-being
• ❤️ Your achievements are part of your story—not your entire identity

It's thoughtful. It's relatable. And it's a reminder that success means different things at different stages of life.

Welcome back to the Hotline 📞—where the hypotheticals get deep, the tangents get emotional, and somehow a career crisis turns into a celebration of friendship, growth, and one very chaotic year of podcasting.

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⚠️ Twin Tangents: Because Therapy Was Booked ⚠️
 Unfiltered. Unapologetic. Unhinged (just a bit).

Hosted by Nalee & Anthony—this is your safe, spicy space to spiral. Expect adult content, hot takes, and high-functioning chaos.

And yes, we call our listeners H.O.E.S.
 (Hilarious. Over it. Emotionally unstable. Spicy.)
 It’s not an insult. It’s a hoe-mmunity.

If you can turn a three-word text into a 45-minute psychological breakdown… welcome home.

Nalee’s Hypothetical Hotline exists for the people who rehearse arguments in the shower and lose sleep over imaginary conversations. Submit your spirals. We’ll spiral louder. And with microphones.

Because if we’re overthinking, we’re doing it professionally.

Just when you thought the chaos was over—Anthony and Nalee invite you to keep the tangents going. With a soft outro vibe and one last wink to the listener, this post-roll points you toward the Twin Tangents website and socials for more unfiltered content. Because if you’re still here, you clearly get it… and we love that for you.

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Transcript

Welcome To The Hotline

NALEE 0:43

Hi everyone, welcome back to Nelly's hypothetical hotline. I mean, ring ring, motherfucker. Today's today's shit. It went over my head. I got too excited to say that. Today's it scenario is would you quit your dream job if it made you miserable? The title today is called The Dream Trap. You still remember getting the offer the moment you worked towards finally paid off. This was the job. The one you talked about, planned for, and built your identity around. And now you have it. On paper, it's perfect. The title, the company, the opportunities, it all looks exactly how you imagined. People keep congratulating you, telling you how lucky you are

The Dream Job Turns Miserable

NALEE 1:29

and how proud they are of you. But behind the scenes, it's different. The workload never really stops. You wake up already stressed, already thinking about everything you need to do. Even when you're not working, it's still in your head. Deadlines, expectations, pressure to prove yourself. You tell yourself, this is normal, this is what success feels like. But it doesn't get any better. Week turns into months, and instead of adjusting, you feel more drained, more anxious, less like yourself. Things you used to enjoy start to feel like actual effort. And the hardest part, no one sees it. From outside, you're thriving. So you start questioning yourself. Maybe you just need to push through. Maybe this is a cost of getting what you wanted. But deep down, you start to wonder if the version of success you chased is the same one that is slowly burning you out. So the gut punch question here is does staying mean that you're continuing to lose your peace? Or does leaving mean that you're walking away from everything you worked for? And go?

ANTHONY 2:37

And go. I'm getting like PTSD here. This I'm triggered right now.

NALEE 2:41

I know.

ANTHONY 2:42

I'm triggered.

NALEE 2:43

It's such an adult situation. You know what I mean? Like, or just working situation in general. It's not a good idea. Thoughts, questions, concerns.

ANTHONY 2:51

Well, the to answer your first question, which was does staying mean continuing to lose your peace? Yes. Yes. I think staying in that situation is going to just cost you more than more than just

Burnout, Health, And The Cost

ANTHONY 3:08

your peace. It's just, it's burnout is real. And I think that in those situations that like it's not gonna end well.

NALEE 3:15

Yeah. I'm speaking You're just gonna slowly burn yourself out.

ANTHONY 3:19

Yeah.

NALEE 3:19

Yeah.

ANTHONY 3:20

Yeah. It's doing more damage for your health and overall well-being, mental, mental health, physical health, emotional health, all the way around. So anyway, was that a two-part qu there was that was that a two-part question or was it a one part question?

NALEE 3:33

Yes. And then it the other one was leaving means walking away from does leaving mean walking away from everything you worked for?

ANTHONY 3:41

I don't think that leaving means that you're walking away from everything that you worked for. It just means that the position that you were in at the place that you were at wasn't the right fit for you.

NALEE 3:54

Yeah.

ANTHONY 3:54

Because I've I've I've felt that way before with like, I mean, I don't know how much our listeners know about like what I do for work, but like I work in the healthcare administration field, and I've put in over a decade of time into this. And I've I've often thought about this when like I finished finally, finally finished college, and like I was like, okay, how can I really afford to do like a complete career pivot? Because what I went to college for was completely different. And that would essentially mean starting over. So then I was like, okay, well, I already have a decade into this field. What can I do that combines the two of them?

NALEE 4:41

Yeah.

ANTHONY 4:41

But I don't necessarily think that, like, you know, I I left the further and the company that I'm at now, it's still within the healthcare field. I'm still able to bring the knowledge that I've accumulated over the past decade to the table. I'm still able to use it. I don't think that I'm walking away from I I don't think that when I left the further, I was walking away from everything, everything.

NALEE 5:09

Okay.

ANTHONY 5:10

It's just, it's just a pivot and it depends on how you do that. Now, if you're if this is your dream job and this is everything that you worked for, and I'm just gonna use, for an example, like manager of a restaurant, like a general manager of a restaurant, or or a chain a store chain, like superstore.

NALEE 5:33

Yeah. Sele select when I'm a superstore.

ANTHONY 5:39

If that's everything that you've worked for and you've you've worked all the way up and everything that you've been wanting to do, you went to college for that, and this is what you want to do. And then you like, you're like, oh my god, I can't handle this. This is just way too much, and then you're like, I I quit. And then you go and you're now you're I don't fucking know. You're volunteering at a church or you're working at something like that, something completely different. Yeah, then you're walking away from everything that you worked for. But I think it's a matter of how what spin you put on it when you decide to leave that job that you've worked for. Because and I think the main thing that really needs to be addressed here is is it really the job or is it the place where the job is at?

NALEE 6:23

Okay. Interesting.

ANTHONY 6:25

What are your thoughts?

NALEE 6:26

Do you for me? I think I don't know, I feel like it's kind of a gray area. For me, it's about the money, baby. It's about the money. But I think I have like obviously, you know, I think if I was to get like my dream job,

Pivoting Without Starting Over

NALEE 6:45

which would be to work at SNL, and if it made me miserable, like if the people made me miserable, then I don't think it's tech it's really losing your peace. I think it's you choosing your piece to leave. And if it's everything you work for, I I will say yes, low-key, because obviously if it's a career that you worked in and it's something you've been you've always dreamed of doing, of course, it's gonna feel like a loss. But at the same time, you know, at this point, I would prefer peace over having to sack peace over what I've worked for. You know what I mean? But I don't know. I feel like it's also like a gray area for me because it would be really hard for me to make that actual like final decision. Now let's say, right. Now let's say, like because obviously, you know, like you and I, we've both been in the healthcare field like for a long time. I don't think it's something that I chose to do. Obviously, I went to school for it, got a degree in it, but it's not really like a a dream job for me. For me, dream job would be working at SNL. Now, if I got that and I worked towards that, I think it would be very hard for me to just be like, nah, forget about it. Like, I gotta go. But if it's something that I've always been passionate about, I think I would have a very, very hard time deciding to leave or not, if even if it makes me stressed or whatever. Because again, I think me, like I am a very sentimental, sentimental person. So it'd be very, very hard for me to just be like, nah, fuck that. I'm gonna go. You know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna be like, okay, I did this and this and this and this, and now I'm finally doing it. Like, you've worked so hard to get here. Why are you gonna quit now? Just because, you know, like you have to work a little harder. You know what I mean? I don't know. Well, I'm kind of going in a circle here because my honest question answer is I don't know. Like, I don't have I don't have an answer for the question because the hoe is stumped. I stumped the hoe. I stumped myself, you know?

ANTHONY 8:50

But I feel like you're looking at it as like it's one and done situation. Like, just because it's your dream job, and again, I'm just gonna go back to using like a general manager of like cloud cloud nine, yeah.

NALEE 9:03

Yeah.

ANTHONY 9:04

Like, let's just say that is your dream job. That's not that's not the only job, is what I'm saying. Is like, okay, so you work at cloud nine, it's you're miserable. The the the all the work, all the invoices, all the paperwork, this and that, the time, the effort you have to put in. It's

Is It The Job Or Place

ANTHONY 9:21

just too much stress. And it's oh, it's like, okay, do I walk away from this and everything that I've worked for? But like, and I'm not getting I guess this is I'm not getting it for getting this from your answer. So I just want to make sure that you're like, like, you can quit Cloud9. You can still be a general manager if that's your dream job. Go to Walmart.

NALEE 9:39

I guess.

ANTHONY 9:40

Go to Macy. There's other options, I'm just saying. Like, is it the place? If it's the place, like is it the people or is it like that? That company is not the only company with your dream job. Because, and unless I'm missing something, I'm just thinking like of any potential dream job that somebody can have out there. There's no place where it's like, you can only go here. This is the only place in the entire planet that has this job. Because, and then if that's the case, which is a very small chance, then the chances of you even having that job are even slimmer because you're not, you're probably not gonna be the only person that that's the their dream job. And then it's you're dealing with a larger compet like competitive pool for getting that job. I'm just saying, anybody's dream job that's out there, if it's that bad, there's always someplace else that's gonna have the same dream job.

NALEE 10:35

Okay. Okay. I see. Yeah, that does make sense. Am I overthinking it?

ANTHONY 10:40

Is there anything else? I mean, I guess the exception to that would be a like a one-time opportunity. Like an SN no, like an SNL character.

NALEE 10:48

Like you can't You can't replace a character, obviously, but I mean you technically can't just write it.

ANTHONY 10:55

No, I'm saying there's no other place for you to go, but I mean I guess there's no other place for you to go like SNL, unless like, I don't know, mad TV up back in the day. But like even then, yeah. But you can still do the dream jump.

NALEE 11:08

You can do acting still. Like acting is acting is what it is, but you could do a different yeah. I I guess I get what you mean. Type or that makes sense.

ANTHONY 11:16

Yeah, that's all I'm saying is like there's other places. Is it is it the dream job that's the issue, the job itself, or is it the job at the company that it's at?

NALEE 11:27

Okay. And I understand where you're coming from. And yes, I do agree with you. If that's the case, yes. The passion itself, the career, like you could you could stick with that, but again, like you said, you know, you could work for a different company that does the same thing. That makes sense. Yeah.

ANTHONY 11:43

Exactly.

NALEE 11:44

So I guess at this point then, if we're going that route, it kind of moots the question that I ask, which is the central question, is a dream still worth it if it costs your peace? Well, I guess it kind of does. But you know, I guess, I guess, yeah.

ANTHONY 12:02

I mean Is a dream still worth it if it costs you your peace? Yeah.

NALEE 12:08

So let's stick to the scenario. That's the thing. Let's stick to the scenario. Oh, go ahead. Sorry.

ANTHONY 12:12

Well, I was just gonna say that question still stands up. So, okay, so I'm general manager at Cloud Nine. I worked my way up. I know. That's uh just call me Glenn.

NALEE 12:22

Yeah.

ANTHONY 12:23

I hate it, everything's horrible. Okay, so I quit. Now I'm general manager at Walmart. I hate it, everything's horrible, I quit. At that point, it's clearly the job. This it's not meant for me. Yeah. So is a dream still worth it if it costs you your piece? No. Dreams are dreams are meant to be chaste, but they're also meant to change as you change as a person.

NALEE 12:50

Okay, I love that. That was beautiful.

ANTHONY 12:53

Thank you. Look at that. Philosopher Anthony.

NALEE 12:57

Yes, that's how A2D sees it. Okay. Well, I mean, I agree with that too. I I think a dream is not worth it if it costs your peace. Obviously, like I said before, right now at this point in life, I think peace is more valuable

When Dreams Need To Change

NALEE 13:11

than anything to me. And in this scenario, yeah, it wouldn't be worth it. Yeah. And it's kind of the like, this is like super side tangent or whatever, but this situation just kind of reminds me of situations where, like, let's say if your friend comes up to you and they're at you're they're telling you the situation, right? And you're giving them advice on like, hey, like, you know, it's it's not that bad, like you could change your job, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if it's you in the hot seat, you could think of it as if what if you asked your friend, what would be the answer that you would give to your friend? And that's the answer that you should look in. That's the answer that you should take. Yeah. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 13:51

Yeah. Look inward. And if the roles were reversed, what would you do?

NALEE 13:55

Exactly.

ANTHONY 13:55

Yeah, I think that's Okay.

NALEE 13:57

Okay, all right.

ANTHONY 13:58

Let me ask you this.

NALEE 14:00

Yeah.

ANTHONY 14:00

I guess maybe now I'm like thinking, are there because I'm not this type of person. I've never met anybody that was this type of person, so I don't know if this type of person exists. What do you mean? Okay. Are there people out there that are like, I want to be the CEO of Verizon? Or like, I want to be the general manager of the Chippa Falls Walmart. Like, are there people whose dreams are that specific? I think so. Really?

NALEE 14:29

Yeah, I think so. Like Glenn. Like Glenn, he's like, he was sorry, I don't know. My allergies are making me itchy. So if she's like, She got scabies, everybody. Stupid. But it's like pollen season, like it's flying everywhere, and I think that's what it's from. I don't know what the fuck, but I'm like super itchy. But, anyways, I think it's kind of like where Glenn, like, he is specific to like that. That was a great example where he wanted to be the CEO or the manager of Cloud9, and that was his dream job, and he was happy waking up every day to go do it, even if sometimes it made him miserable. You know what I mean? But I do think that sometimes people have very specific like dreams and careers, you know what I mean?

ANTHONY 15:13

And that's Well, yeah, I mean, I guess that was my question. Yeah. Like if my dream was to be a teacher, I wouldn't care where I'm teaching. Obviously, would I prefer to work? God, don't, I hope this doesn't get us clear.

NALEE 15:25

For a private school?

ANTHONY 15:27

Oh, I like that better. No, I was gonna say, like, of course, would I prefer to work in a school that has, you know, armed guards at the door and it's kind of like in the slums of like Philadelphia or Chicago or someplace versus like Eaure Memorial or Chai High? I probably would prefer Eau Claire. Yeah. But at the end of the day, if my dream job was to teach, I wouldn't care where I'm teaching.

NALEE 15:57

That's true. But some people are like like what you said, I think some people are like that, where they're like, I want to work at a private school, I wanna, you know, have all of the extra stuff, and then they will work towards that. They won't necessarily all get it. It's gonna be more competitive, obviously. But at the same time, if they are like, if at the end of the day, they want to be like, uh, this is where I want to work, this is the only place I don't work, and this is the only thing that I want to do for the rest of my life. There are people like that, I'm sure. You know?

ANTHONY 16:26

I'm curious to know. I want I want viewers and listeners to chime in on that. Because honestly, I don't think I've ever met a person who was like, This is what I want to do, and this is where I want to work, and if it's either this or nothing. And even then, in this life, it's it can never be this or nothing. You have to sacrifice at some point and you have to there could be 99 people in one room.

NALEE 16:57

I'm just kidding.

ANTHONY 16:58

I know it that's two now, just an FYI.

NALEE 17:01

Two what?

ANTHONY 17:02

It's two things that you have referenced from a recent review of one of our episodes.

NALEE 17:09

Yeah, that's true.

ANTHONY 17:10

I mean, I was fresh in your mind now.

NALEE 17:13

Yeah, I've been re-listening to our old episodes, you guys, and just a side tangent. Like, can you believe we've been doing this for a year? That's just insane to me. Holy crap. Yeah, I think this will be out after our one-year episodes. So but I just want to say to you, Anthony, thank you for being such a great co-host. Thank you for keeping me on top of my shit. And thank you for being a part of this podcast. I think obviously you

One Year In And Gratitude

NALEE 17:44

bring 50% of this podcast.

ANTHONY 17:47

You can not be 75.

NALEE 17:49

More like, no, I'm like more like 80, but whatever. I'm just I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna blow smoke up your ass. But no, like, I just want to say you feeling it, you feeling it. I feel it. Oh, it's good. It's spicy, nah. Two, two. But I just want to say thank you. You've been such a great co-host. I think I've had I've had so much fun doing this. I see us doing this for a very long time. If you know, we continue to have we continue to have listeners, followers, and stuff like that. So like, share, subscribe, whatever, all of the above, watch our videos. But I just want to take a moment, obviously, aside from this, because we have a little bit of time, but I just want to take a moment to say thank you for being such an amazing co-host. We have come a long way. I think we have. I think I've it's it's been amazing getting to know who you are and hearing your side of the story. And just to spend this amount of time with you, I think it's I think we've built a very good relationship, and I'm excited to get to know you even more. I'm excited to see where the podcast goes. And overall, just thank you for all you've done for the podcast, and thank you for taking the bait and being my co-host.

ANTHONY 19:49

Taking the bait. There it is, listeners. She cornered me like a fucking rat. And I didn't fight back. No, I'm just kidding.

NALEE 19:57

No, it's been it's been really fun.

ANTHONY 19:59

It has been fun. And I thank you as well for convincing me and cornering me and trapping me into this. No, I'm just kidding.

NALEE 20:08

You're welcome. I told you. No, but really, thank you. I'm gonna see it through.

ANTHONY 20:13

It I feel like it has been fun. I've learned a lot about you. I think that that definitely has been a two-way street. I think that this has really brought us and our relationship closer.

NALEE 20:25

Yeah, for sure.

ANTHONY 20:27

I mean, for for fuck's sake, I know how you wipe your ass. So I don't know how to say that.

NALEE 20:34

Everybody does.

ANTHONY 20:34

I guess that's not helping my case, is it? Everybody that listens knows how you wipe your ass.

NALEE 20:39

Yeah. Step by step. But that's the beauty of the podcast.

ANTHONY 20:42

Yeah. I'm I'm very excited to see where this goes.

NALEE 20:47

Yeah.

ANTHONY 20:48

Just because I mean, it's only been a year and I mean, we now have two, I don't know, do you want to call them like spin-off segments or like side segments? Like it's exciting and it's just the evolution of twin tangents.

NALEE 21:02

And yeah, no, for sure. I think we've grown a lot. I mean, we obviously should have done like a mini like episode of this or whatever, but it's fine. I think it's very on brand with our tangents, but I think for me it was it was definitely nostalgic listening back to like our first couple of episodes. And honestly, I think we've grown so much, like vocally and mentally, opinionated, and yeah, but I don't know. I think I think we should be proud of ourselves. I think kind of hearing about like other podcasts and stuff like that. Like some don't even last a year, and look at us. Like, yes, we have 18 loyal listeners, but that's 18 loyal listeners.

ANTHONY 21:49

I was just gonna say, that's 18. It ain't one, exactly. It ain't two, it's 18. And really, what I want from our listeners, so it's been a year, we have 18 listeners. Can we like up that? Can we get everybody out there like, comment, subscribe, share? I don't care. Like, I don't even care. This is gonna sound horrible, maybe. Like, I don't care if you listen to us every single week, whether it's or if it's only Nolly's hypothetical hotline that you listen to, or if it's only Twin Tampins Court, subscribe to us, increase our followers.

NALEE 22:21

Like, yeah, if you enjoy hearing us being crazy. Yeah. I think that's definitely one thing that I will ask for our listeners is honestly just share and you don't have to even write anything. Just post it, just share it on your story. We have we honestly really want to do a giveaway. We tried doing a giveaway, but twice we've tried to do a giveaway. Yeah, I don't think we had enough engagement, but we really want to be able to give you guys merge too. We have a lot of really great ideas. And honestly, at this point, soon we're gonna start having guests on the show and or on the podcast. And I think in order for us to do that, we really unf you know, we do kind of rely on you guys too to kind of give word of mouth and kind of share with the world, you know. And if you enjoy it, if you listen to us every week, at this point has been a year. Year, baby. You in a you're a year deep. Like, do give us a little something. Just share it.

ANTHONY 23:18

It's literally two taps on your phone. Like, but share it on your Facebook. Share it on your Instagram.

NALEE 23:24

And if you don't like it and you just listen to listen, like that's okay too. Add a bad comment. I don't know. Say these people suck, don't listen. And so then it'll bring more people in, too, you know, to listen to how much we suck. You know, like that's fine too. Like, again, bad publicity is publicity. Yes. But I just want to say though, on top of all of that, also thank you to the loyal 18 listeners. Thank you guys for coming every week, listening to us rant, listening to us talk, listening to us be crazy and be vulnerable and be delusional. Thank you guys all for continuously coming back. And again, me and Anthony, we are nobodies, but I mean, at least to you guys, we're speaking for yourself.

ANTHONY 24:08

I'm somebody.

NALEE 24:09

But no, just go ahead.

ANTHONY 24:11

I just want to throw out a little tip for anybody out there. If you still work in the office and you have a commute, it's been brought to our attention that we make great background like commute noise. Yeah. Yeah. So just pop it in. Apple play. Like, do whatever you gotta do on your car.

NALEE 24:30

Exactly. We're on Spotify, Apple, Podcasts, what is it? Prime something. Yep, Amazon. All street plan for platforms. And we're also on YouTube. So you guys can't run away from us, really, if anything. We're everywhere. But again, you know, it's been a year. It's been a crazy ride. It's been a fun ride. I think I just can't really wait to see where this podcast goes. And we hit our 2K plus downloads, which is amazing.

ANTHONY 25:01

2500 plus.

NALEE 25:03

What did I say?

ANTHONY 25:04

You said 2K.

NALEE 25:05

Oh, 2.5K is what I meant to say.

ANTHONY 25:07

Okay. But that's a big number for us.

NALEE 25:09

I think one year and 2.5k downloads, that's amazing. Those who listen to us in Japan, like, I don't know who's consistently listening, but thank you. I would say it, but I think that's like when you eat, you say thank you. So I don't even I don't I what is I'm gonna get canceled. I'm gonna get canceled for this. It's you know, like when when people eat, like they say amen or whatever, they say takimasu or something like that in Japanese.

ANTHONY 25:37

In Japan?

NALEE 25:38

Yeah.

ANTHONY 25:39

I didn't know you know I didn't know you knew Japanese.

NALEE 25:42

Only that one word. And I only know hello, which is which is mushy mushi or something like that.

ANTHONY 25:47

Now you just watch those 18 like our 18 subscribers, now it's just gonna drop to like three.

NALEE 25:55

Um, but anyways, like no, Virginia, y'all bitches keep coming every week. You guys are you guys are like head on with Eau Claire. Obviously, we have a big community in Eau Claire, but again, like thank you guys for just listening to us and it's been really fun. I hope that we can continue doing this. And ah, I'm so stupid. It's Arigato. So dumb. Y'all see it all the time too. Arigato Mama San or whatever.

ANTHONY 26:21

I say Sayanara Mama Sana.

NALEE 26:24

Sayonara. God, my shit fucked up. But it's Arigato. Sorry to our Japanese listeners. But no, for some reason we have like a big listening there too, so which is kind of crazy.

ANTHONY 26:35

Um tune in in two weeks. It's this is now gonna be known as Anthony's hypothetical hotline. Nolly will be looking for a new co-host if anybody.

NALEE 26:49

No, but it's it's been a it's been a really fun journey. Thanks everybody for listening and tuning in. Again, we're leaving it up to you guys to like, share, subscribe, comment. Um, yeah.

ANTHONY 27:01

Do all of the things.

NALEE 27:02

I will give a shout out because I know we have a super fan to Little Diabetes or we have two.

ANTHONY 27:09

We have two super fans.

NALEE 27:11

Do we? Or yeah, two super fans, actually.

ANTHONY 27:13

Fef. Fef and Lil Diabetes.

NALEE 27:16

Okay, maybe we have more than two super fans, because maybe four. I know for sure four. Little diabetes, or as Courtney told me, Menel Menolo? Menolo, which is like kind of the shoe brand. Yeah, she told me that on the side. But we have Fef for sure. And then I know Anna listens to us. She's my ex-sister-in-law, and then I know my brother listens to us religiously too. So again, he does. Yeah, he does. Thank you guys for listening. It's been a fun ride. But I just wanted to say, in regards to our one super fan, which is Courtney's husband, Little Diabetes. Like, he was he just put us on and listened, and then all of a sudden he's like a super fan. So, and if he likes us, I mean, I mean, I don't really know him that well, but he likes us, so that's a good thing.

ANTHONY 28:09

I now I need to know, did he put us on to just like to what like did he start listening into us? Like, oh, this is gonna be fucking stupid.

NALEE 28:17

So you have no clue. That's a good question. Maybe he'll ask, maybe I'll ask him when I go to Florida or something when I go visit him. But I don't know. I think Courtney was just like, oh hey, like I have a coworker, she has a podcast, and then I think he started listening to it, and then he just kept listening because that's how he's like your co-worker is awesome. Yeah, exactly. So, but regardless, I'll I'll have to ask that. But yeah, regardless, thanks everybody for listening. We hit our one year. Congratulations to us. And many more years to come. So, all right, back to the main course or the main scenario. The main course. I just have one last question here for you.

ANTHONY 29:00

Okay.

NALEE 29:01

So, with career-wise, peace-wise, dreams-wise, how much of your identity is tied to achievement?

ANTHONY 29:07

How much of my identity is tied to achievement? Can you use it in a sentence, please? Now, can you elaborate on what you mean by that specifically?

NALEE 29:16

Okay, so I guess I should have asked. Actually, I guess do you I guess I should have asked like in a different way, but does your identity, is your identity tied to your to your achievement or to what you've achieved in life? Like, does that make you, for example, because I've done this and this and this, does that make me does that identify who I am? Like what I've done in my life.

ANTHONY 29:39

Okay, so I think that this is gonna be like a a very unpopular answer.

NALEE 29:44

Okay.

ANTHONY 29:44

And it's gonna be kind of like a twofold because we've had multiple conversations in the past about, for me personally, how sorry, I'm just really itchy right now.

NALEE 29:54

So I'm just like scabies. I get it. Yeah.

ANTHONY 30:00

Body lights.

NALEE 30:01

You have skabies.

ANTHONY 30:02

Courtney, are you sure you still want her to come and visit?

NALEE 30:05

You have skabies too.

ANTHONY 30:07

No, I'm good. I ain't I'm moisturized, baby girl.

NALEE 30:10

Not yet. Well, I just go and transfer to you. Go on.

ANTHONY 30:13

So we've had a lot of conversations in the past about how

Achievement And Identity

ANTHONY 30:16

I do have certain expectations for myself and I do have expectations for my life. So for me, I'm gonna say yes, achievement is tied to my identity because that is like that's part of who I am and part of who I want to be. However, now, with that being said, the caveat on that is that at the same time, I'm gonna say no from a standpoint of I don't need to be that person, like, how can I? So let's just say, you know, at the the company that we're at now. How, you know, if I climb or if I climb a corporate ladder and I make my way up to a certain position, I'm never going to be that person that is like, hi, I'm Anthony. I'm the CEO of blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Like I'm never gonna be, like, I'm not gonna be that person like to show off my title or whatever. So that's not gonna, so it's like, it's kind of twofold for me. But internally, personally for myself, yes, it is, because I like to know that I've set my goal out and this was my goal that I set, and I worked for it and I achieved it. This is who I wanted to be, this is what I wanted to be, this is what I wanted to do, and I've I've I've reached that.

NALEE 31:33

Okay.

ANTHONY 31:35

Yes. So, yeah, twofold answer for me. Probably an unpopular opinion, tying my identity, identity to achievement.

NALEE 31:42

Okay.

ANTHONY 31:43

What about you?

NALEE 31:44

Say that I don't know if it's a yes or a no, but I'm it's definitely in the middle ground for me too, kind of like a gray area. But I would say my achievement is a part of who I am, but it does not identify who who who I am as a person. Like it's a part of what I've I've gotten. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 32:00

Yeah. Yeah. So that's a perfect way of saying it.

NALEE 32:03

Yeah, but I think it does, it does it does like how should I say it? I think a lot of people define you by your achievements, but me as an individual, it doesn't define who I am, though, whatever I've achieved. Because I've also achieved two divorces. I also achieved like, you know, like a high school graduate high school degree. And you know, it doesn't always mean that it's like a good or a bad thing. It's just it doesn't identify who you are. And I think in this sense, like, yes, you could achieve a lot of things. And if it's a lot of good things, that's great. But you could also achieve a lot of bad things. And achievement isn't just like good things, it could be bad too. You know what I mean? True. So yeah, you could it it's it's a part of who you are, but it doesn't identify who you are, if that makes sense. I wanted to say it doesn't identify who you is, but that's how to like I mean you could have.

ANTHONY 33:04

Really? That's where you're gonna draw the line. You're gonna say, I ate medicine, or how does it look like? How it like you're not gonna say how it looked like, but you're not gonna say define who we is. That's where you draw the line.

NALEE 33:18

That's episode one, two, and three, Nolly. We we in season two now, baby.

ANTHONY 33:23

Oh, okay. She growing up, she she mature.

NALEE 33:28

Roth, baby. Uh go ahead.

ANTHONY 33:30

No, we're good.

NALEE 33:31

Okay. Well, I was just gonna say, did you have anything else to add to this scenario or anything else to add in regards to our one year or anything whatsoever in relation to this?

ANTHONY 33:46

Yes. So the one thing that I want to say to the viewers and the listeners out there with regards to this scenario is I think it's very important to remember that when you're in a position, your mental health and your health are number one. And I think that this was something that I personally learned the hard way. But I think those things are number one. There's always gonna be another job out there, and even if it is your dream job, like I said earlier, your dream job does not exist at one company.

NALEE 34:18

Very true, very true.

ANTHONY 34:20

And the problem with, again, specifically this scenario and everything that was being felt by this person, that could have potentially been stemming from the company itself. So it's very true. It's very important to look at that side of things. And then the other thing that I want to say is yeah, it just another congratulations to us for one year.

NALEE 34:41

Yay!

ANTHONY 34:42

It's it's exciting. It's so surreal because it was like it really is.

NALEE 34:46

Yeah. We've been talking for a long ass fucking time.

ANTHONY 34:49

We have.

NALEE 34:49

A year of talking.

ANTHONY 34:51

It's been a year of talking, and we still got so much fucking shit to do.

NALEE 34:58

Hilarious.

ANTHONY 34:59

Crazy.

NALEE 35:00

Okay.

ANTHONY 35:01

Okay.

NALEE 35:02

Anything else? That's all I got. Okay. I just wanted to add, which is again another side tangent before this ends, is that,

Mental Health Comes First

NALEE 35:10

or not really a side tangent, but I think when it comes to situarios in regards to your career or growth or anything like that, peace, whatever, do whatever benefits you. Because at the end of the day, everybody's gonna do whatever benefits them. So if this is gonna bring you peace to leave, do that. Go to a different company. If staying will make you feel better about you, about what you've worked for, and if you could handle the stress, stay. There's no right or wrong answer at the end of the day. It's whatever makes you happy.

ANTHONY 35:40

I agree with that. And you actually just made me want to say one more thing. And I think that we've said it in an episode before. But like this, just the stress of it all. And again, with the scenario, anybody who's experiencing this, it's not worth it. Remember that if something were to happen to you today, your job is gonna be posted by tomorrow morning.

NALEE 36:04

Exactly. Exactly. That. But yeah, that is it for today. Again, thank you guys for listening, watching at this point on YouTube. And thanks for coming back every week to those 18 listeners. Your j your guys' job now is to like, share, subscribe, and do what you gotta do to help the pod.

ANTHONY 36:28

And like, subscribe, and comment across all platforms, or at least subscribe on all platforms because we got you guys. But a smiley face. I don't know, some kind of interaction. Yeah. Everything.

NALEE 36:39

But other than that, see you guys in two Wednesdays from now. Two Wednesdays from now for another Nolly's hypothetical hotline.

ANTHONY 36:47

I love how you had to stop and think about it.

NALEE 36:49

No, because I was like, wait, do we do yeah, but see you guys back in two Wednesday from now for another Nolly's hypothetical hotline. All right. Okay. Well, bye. Bye. Bye.