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At some point in life, we all believed something that made perfect sense…
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This week on Twin Tangents, Anthony and Nalee take a chaotic walk down memory lane — revisiting childhood logic, school-day trauma, and the very questionable behaviors we all somehow agreed were normal.

Because why did we all:
 fake limp injuries…
 change our voice when we were “sick”…
 and genuinely believe we could dig a hole straight to China?

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✏️ Childhood chaos → pencil stabbings, fake injuries, sick voices, and the things we absolutely did for attention
 🎒 School supply nostalgia → the obsession, the aesthetics, and why new supplies felt like a personality reset
 🌍 Delusional childhood beliefs → Bermuda Triangle theories, digging to China, and our brief archaeology era
 📱 Then vs. now communication → texting habits, phone anxiety, ghosting, and confrontation in adulthood
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Transcript

Cold Open And Ground Rules

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Anthony's clearly having a stroke over here. Okay, let's not do that. That was a little too realistic for me.

ANTHONY 0:59

Judge me. Too realistic for what? Okay. For me.

NALEE 1:03

All right. Well, welcome back to Twin Tangents, the only podcast where we confidently say something out loud, and then I don't know if we actually immediately regret it, but sometimes we do.

ANTHONY 1:15

I do. Totally immediately regret it. Today's episode is dedicated to every moment you thought was normal.

NALEE 1:22

Until somebody looked at you like you just admitted to eating drywall for fun. Oh god. Or Anthony's regular facial expression that he looks at me when he's like, oh, this bitch is about to say something stupid.

ANTHONY 1:36

Hey, I can't tell when I know it's coming. We are unpacking all the behaviors, the habits, and the childhood lore that we defended with our full chest.

NALEE 1:47

Only to find out it was hella unhinged.

ANTHONY 1:51

Illegal in three states.

NALEE 1:52

And possibly a cry for help.

ANTHONY 1:55

This is things we thought were normal until someone said, wait, what?

NALEE 2:02

If you feel attacked today.

ANTHONY 2:03

That's because you are.

NALEE 2:05

Let's tangent.

ANTHONY 2:07

You're so funny. I was waiting for your countdown.

NALEE 2:09

Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Three, two, one. Let's tangent.

Childhood Myths That Fooled Us

ANTHONY 2:14

Let's tangent. Alright. Let's start with childhood. When our brains were smooth and our logic was non-existent.

NALEE 2:21

Why did adults just say things and we accepted it like it was the law?

ANTHONY 2:25

No research, no questions, just fear.

NALEE 2:29

Honestly, childhood was just gaslighting with snacks. And I agree to that a thousand percent.

ANTHONY 2:35

A thousand percent. It was always snacks were always used as a fucking bribe.

NALEE 2:41

It really was. It's like don't cry, don't cry, I'll give you candy, or don't cry, don't cry. You'll get ice cream or something. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 2:47

Yeah. Till this day, I still think about a time that I had to go to the dentist, and my grandma bribed me by saying that she would stop afterwards and get me a new toy.

NALEE 2:58

Wow. That totally sounds on brand for you.

ANTHONY 3:02

Why?

NALEE 3:04

What does that even mean? It's a good thing. It means you were loved. You were spoiled, but loved.

ANTHONY 3:09

I was spoiled. That funny fun fact for you when I was a child, and anytime somebody said that I was spoiled, I would look them in the face and put on my little coy face, and I'd be like, I'm not spoiled. I'm just well loved.

NALEE 3:25

I love that. That is totally you too, though.

ANTHONY 3:27

Yeah.

NALEE 3:28

Like you was a sassy ass hoe back then. Holy crap.

ANTHONY 3:31

Back then? What about now?

NALEE 3:33

Well, now you are, but you're just cranky most of the time.

ANTHONY 3:36

Time uh, you're not wrong. I'm cynical. I'll call I'll I'll own that. I'll own my shit. I am cynical.

NALEE 3:44

Okay. Well, anyways, our first segment again is childhood was a fever dream. And my first topic was swallowing gum that meant it would live in your stomach for seven years, like a tenant. I believed in that so much. Same. I never swallowed. I think one time.

ANTHONY 4:05

Do you want to finish that sentence?

NALEE 4:07

No, not today. Not today.

ANTHONY 4:09

I've never swallowed.

NALEE 4:11

I never swallowed. I'm a quitter because I'm a spitter.

ANTHONY 4:14

Quitters are quitters.

NALEE 4:15

Yeah, exactly. I'm a quitter because I'm a spitter. But yeah, we're not gonna talk about that. Let's skip over. Um but I remember distinctly, like when we were little kids, I I think it was like third grade, and I had brought a pack of gum, because you know, like back then, I don't know about you, but when I had a full pack of gum, it was like the thing. I was like the shit, you know. I was like, oh, I got gum. I y'all want a piece of my gum, you know, kind of a thing. But I remember eating gum and I forget what we were doing, but I think it was like at gym or something, like physical ed or folly or whatever they call them. And I think I like hopped on something and then I swallowed my gum. And then there was this, there's this boy in my class, and he's like, Oh, did you know that if you swallowed gum, like it stays in your stomach for like seven years and it like gets really messed up? And I was like, really? Like, oh no, like and then as he said that, you know how like you could imagine things and feel it with your body? I slowly felt the gum like go through my throat and into my stomach, and I was like, fuck, it's gonna be there for like seven years, and it's gonna be all gross when I poop it out. And then if I f what? I said, if you poop it out, yeah, but then I think like two days later, I pooped up the gum. So I'm like, that bitch was a fucking lying ass hell.

ANTHONY 5:32

Timeout. But time out.

NALEE 5:34

Don't ask me how I know, I just know.

ANTHONY 5:36

How do you know that you pooped it out? Were you blowing bubbles or did you dissect your poop?

NALEE 5:41

We ain't gonna talk about that. Literally, what's in the toilet stays in the toilet. If I don't send a picture to you, then that's it. Kapoo. But I'm just telling you that it was not seven years, it was three days more, more or less. Yeah.

ANTHONY 5:54

I always had that same fear. And then my other fear I wanted to tack onto this as well was my aunt and uncle would always like tease me like if you swallow like a watermelon seed or like an orange seed, you would start sprouting a tree. Obviously, that's not feasible. But as a child, I didn't fucking I was stupid.

NALEE 6:15

You weren't the only stupid kid. I believe that too, because you know, like my mom and my dad they garden a lot. And I've eaten watermelon seeds before, and they didn't tell me, but I would be like, Am I gonna die now? Like, is there gonna be a tree that's gonna grow in my stomach? And then I think about all the times that I swallowed seeds that never happened, and I'm like, God, I'm such a stupid kid. But you know what?

ANTHONY 6:37

All kids are stupid.

NALEE 6:38

Yeah, that's neither here nor there, because everybody's stupid. And I'm still stupid today, so it's okay.

ANTHONY 6:43

Okay, well, I'm not gonna agree to that. I'm not stupid anymore.

NALEE 6:46

Anymore. I have a side tangent to that though.

ANTHONY 6:49

I think swallowing seeds.

Gum Panic And Seed Nightmares

NALEE 6:51

Yeah, yeah. It wasn't really seeds, but it was a guy who inhaled seeds and it went into his lungs, and it actually grew like uh Oh, I saw that.

ANTHONY 7:02

I heard about that. It started sprouting in his lungs.

NALEE 7:05

Yes, yeah. So that could happen. I mean, that's kind of like scary, but don't don't snort seeds. You know what I mean? Don't snort seeds, eat them.

ANTHONY 7:15

Eat them, yeah.

NALEE 7:16

Yeah, eat them. I always be a spit of the acquitta.

ANTHONY 7:20

Going back to your like going back to your swallowing gum, I always had a fear, and I feel like I saw an article about this, or maybe it was on Grey's Anatomy or something. I don't fucking know. Didn't they they like swallowed gum and it got lodged in their stomach, and then every time they breathed, they were like blowing a bubble in their throat.

NALEE 7:41

I don't think so. I've never seen that on Grey's Anatomy.

ANTHONY 7:44

Okay, then it was an article I saw somewhere.

NALEE 7:46

Interesting. Why that's so weird. That must have been a huge ass piece of gum to cover your whole throat to blow a bubble.

ANTHONY 7:54

Okay, that would be me, because I'm the type of person that'll like I'll chew a piece of gum and then like I just keep adding to it to keep the flavor longer. You didn't do that with especially as a kid. You didn't do that as a kid?

NALEE 8:05

Well, I did that with the hubba bubba gums. Like, you know how like you would chew it to the big game. Yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY 8:10

You end up with this big wad.

NALEE 8:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ugh. Yeah.

ANTHONY 8:13

Can you imagine?

NALEE 8:15

I guess I would understand that.

ANTHONY 8:17

Did you ever like voluntarily swallow gum?

NALEE 8:19

I I don't think it was voluntary, but I've like, it was kind of like the same situation where like I didn't mean to, and then I forgot that I was chewing gum, and then it just and I'm like, ugh. You know what I mean? Like, I do that a lot. I'm an idiot.

ANTHONY 8:33

You're not an idiot, but I am gonna question some things about you because it's like, how do you forget you're chewing gum? That's like saying, oh, I forgot I was driving a car. I should probably stop.

NALEE 8:44

Well, sometimes there's no. The fuck?

ANTHONY 8:50

That explains your car accident. You forgot you were driving a car.

NALEE 8:53

You know what? Don't talk about Totoro like that. Don't you dare talk about Totoro like that. No.

ANTHONY 8:59

Was that the name of your car? Oh, that was the name of your car, wasn't it?

NALEE 9:01

Yeah, we're grieving him still.

ANTHONY 9:04

But by the way, Cindy, that was the thing that I was talking to you about the other day.

NALEE 9:09

It's Courtney now. It's not Cindy anymore. Sorry.

ANTHONY 9:12

I can't keep track. Her name is Changel. It's Courtney.

NALEE 9:14

We're sticking with Courtney.

ANTHONY 9:15

Okay. Courtney.

NALEE 9:17

So Cindy is Cindy is my alter ego, but I have a new alter ego now. So Cindy's now dead. We have Courtney and we have a different person now.

ANTHONY 9:24

I feel like our viewers right now are living like the movie Split right now. You got like eight fucking personalities.

NALEE 9:32

It was Patricia. Have you seen Split?

ANTHONY 9:35

I have. Oh, yeah. It's such a good movie.

NALEE 9:37

I love him.

Alter Egos And Celebrity Hall Passes

ANTHONY 9:38

He did such an amazing job in that movie.

NALEE 9:41

Yeah. Like when he was playing the little kid. Ugh.

ANTHONY 9:45

I believed it. I bought it. He's so like the range on and the talent?

NALEE 9:49

Yeah, he's so underrated. I love him. I love him.

ANTHONY 9:53

What's his name again? I can't think of it.

NALEE 9:55

I was trying to see if you could think of it. It's because I forgot how it's like.

ANTHONY 9:59

All I'm thinking is Ewan McGregor, but I know that's not it.

NALEE 10:02

Oh my god, I was gonna say the same thing. McAvoy? Yeah, James McVoy. Thank you. James McVoy. That's my man. Teamwork. That's my man. That's my man. He's like on the top, he's like my top ten. Look at my mango. He's beautiful. And Idris Elba.

ANTHONY 10:19

Yeah. And Henry Cavalier. You want me to name it out?

NALEE 10:22

Henry Cavill's number one.

ANTHONY 10:24

I think we already named it out. Didn't we have Did we? Didn't we discuss our like no, we didn't.

NALEE 10:28

I have no clue.

ANTHONY 10:29

We started to discuss it.

NALEE 10:31

Yeah.

ANTHONY 10:31

Like our celebrity hall pass list.

NALEE 10:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got plenty. I got I got a list of 20.

ANTHONY 10:37

But she's like, I got plenty. They got a pulse and they a celebrity. My legs are open.

NALEE 10:44

Well, wait, wait. We're not talking about Melissa here. We're not talking about Melissa here. We're talking about me here. I'm a I'm not that Melissa's not classy, but I'm classy, baby. Come on. They gotta, they gotta show me what's good first. They gotta show me the goodies. And if I agree with it, then we'll proceed. Melissa now, she's like, you breathe, you eat, you got food, done. Face down ass up. Here we go.

ANTHONY 11:06

You gonna buy me a lobster dinner? It's gonna be big.

Bermuda Triangle Obsession Explained

NALEE 11:10

It's big, hungry. It's big hung. Okay, well, anyways, I forgot what my tangent was, but I'll move on to the next subject that I wanted to bring up. It was thinking the Bermuda Triangle was something you'd need to navigate personally. I was obsessed with the Bermuda Triangle. I think we've talked about this too with our what is it, conspiracy theories. But like when I was a kid, like I was obsessed with the Bermuda Triangle. I'm like, you know what? Whatever happened, Bermuda Triangle. You know, some sh weird shit happened, Bermuda Triangle, you know? But yeah. I don't know. It's still an enigma to me.

ANTHONY 11:47

Same to me. It's very interesting. I don't I don't think that I was obsessed with it, but I was really intrigued by the fact of all the mysteries surrounding the Bermuda Triangle.

NALEE 11:59

Like, how does that and I remember did you come up with like a recent update about it?

ANTHONY 12:04

I have no idea.

NALEE 12:05

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY 12:06

I don't trust anything. Never mind. Yeah, I don't. But I remember when I was did you ever have book fairs?

NALEE 12:13

Yeah. We talked about this. I loved book fairs.

ANTHONY 12:15

And they brought in those big metal cabinets.

NALEE 12:18

Yes. And then there was books. There was like science.

ANTHONY 12:21

And there was always Yeah, and there was always a book that was like the Bermuda Triangle or Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paranormal. Yeah.

NALEE 12:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY 12:32

And I was always intrigued by that.

NALEE 12:34

Ugh, book fairs. I like I loved book fairs.

ANTHONY 12:38

Yeah, same. Or the scholastic. Yeah.

NALEE 12:41

Isn't that the same thing? Book fair? Because don't you like, don't you weren't they kind of the same thing? Like they were hand in hand. It's like, right?

ANTHONY 12:50

They were kind of the they were kind of the same thing, but I feel like the scholastic ones were like you ordered it was like a catalog and you would like order from and then you would bring that into your teachers and then they would send those in. And your books would all be like.

NALEE 13:08

And then let's say if you missed the opportunity to go, you could use that booklet and order what you would have wanted. That's what I remember. Because they had like the pamphlets for you to bring, or they would pass it out, and they're like, if you can't make it to the book fair, here's you know, a booklet you could give to your mom or your dad. And it was like always during conferences or something like that.

ANTHONY 13:27

I feel like when I was a kid, we had both because it was always different. Like the books that were in the the big metal things at the fair were always different than what were in the casual.

NALEE 13:37

I don't know. I just remember I used to save my allowance to buy shit from that. And I was like every time I got an order, that's where pre-Amazon existed. Yeah. Because you ordered it, and then that was the only thing that you were looking forward to the next few weeks. Yeah. That's what that's how it started. See, that's how that's how shit gets started. They do they start it when you're small.

ANTHONY 13:59

That's how shopping addiction started, yes.

NALEE 14:01

Yes.

ANTHONY 14:02

Yeah.

NALEE 14:04

It was the best.

ANTHONY 14:06

What what else did you uh like think about the Bermuda Triangle?

NALEE 14:11

I mean I just thought that it was kind of cool and it's kind of fucked up. And it's just kind of like I thought it was like a setup. Like, oh, this is definitely like not normal. Like somebody is like somebody's doing it caused by somebody.

ANTHONY 14:24

Yes.

NALEE 14:25

Right. Like this is a man-made issue. You know what I mean? Yes. Like, it ain't like it's not made up. Like people are doing it. Like getting math in, you know what I mean?

ANTHONY 14:35

Yeah, exactly. The math wasn't mathing, for sure.

NALEE 14:38

What about you?

ANTHONY 14:39

Well, I mean, I thought the exact same thing. I definitely thought that it was it wasn't anything paranormal. But it was just weird. And I thought that there was maybe like some sort of again, going back to like it's a man-made issue. There was something that was causing all the rare occurrences there. That was whether that be like a military base, whether there's an island there. I don't know. I will say this.

NALEE 15:09

And I'm probably I feel like I say this in epi every episode. And I'm gonna sound really fucking dumb. Yeah, exactly.

ANTHONY 15:18

Listeners, brace yourselves.

NALEE 15:20

I used to think, God, I'm gonna sound so fucking stupid, but I'm gonna do it for you guys. I used to think that the Bermuda Triangle was like a place that we could actually go to. Like it's not like in the ocean. I thought it was like in the desert, and like there was sand and stuff, and like things would get like I see your face. Things would get like, I don't know, abandoned or whatever. That's what I thought the Bermuda Triangle was. Come to find out in high school, it was like in the fucking sea. Like, I'm like, God dang, I'm stupid, y'all. But then again, I was stupid. I didn't like do more research. I just thought it sounded like, ooh, like this is a place that's like you know.

ANTHONY 16:00

Well, it's because of the way that like everybody like talks about it.

NALEE 16:04

Yeah.

ANTHONY 16:05

Right?

NALEE 16:05

So See, so I'm not stupid, right? I'm not stupid as a kid to think that it was like a place in the desert that like people don't go to. I don't know.

ANTHONY 16:12

I mean, the only the only thing that I have to say about that is like I don't know what stories you heard about the Bermuda Triangle, but the majority of the stories that I heard about the Ber Bermuda Triangle were involving ships and planes crashing in the ocean. So I I can't speak for you. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know where the desert came from.

Faking Sick Days And Injuries

NALEE 16:36

I didn't really hear about the ships until I think later on. And then that's when I was like, oh, that makes sense. But now it tries to be like, yeah, in my head, like stupid. In my or I should say I'm stupid, but in my head, I thought that, you know, Amelia Earhart, she was a pilot and she flew airplanes. And so maybe in my head, I'll check so far. Yeah, I came up with like I came up with a destination or location for it in my head that it's like sandy. Like, you know, a lot of the movies where they're like flying an airplane and shit, it's like in the desert and stuff. And I heard of like missing things go missing, like not ships, but then like I don't remember. But I just that's the main thing that made me concentrated on like not thinking that I was like in the water or whatever was airplanes. And so I'm like, oh, okay, they're probably flying through a desert and then they got lost and there was a storm and then they died or something, you know? But come to find out, yeah.

ANTHONY 18:29

This is probably gonna be like an unpopular opinion with like listeners. I I can kind of see where you were coming from.

NALEE 18:37

Yeah, see? See, thank you.

ANTHONY 18:39

Vegan just like that much.

NALEE 18:42

As long as you see it and it's a dot, I'm good. We were in agreement.

ANTHONY 18:47

Yeah.

NALEE 18:49

All right, what are some of your topics?

ANTHONY 18:51

Well, okay, so I never did this particular thing, but I did a variation of it. So, like practicing your injured walk before showing your parents because you needed it to look convincing. I never did that, but I did do a lot of practicing my sick voice when I didn't want to go to school.

NALEE 19:14

I could see that.

ANTHONY 19:15

Yeah.

NALEE 19:17

Okay. Give us an example. No, I definitely did that. Like, you know me. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. I want to hear your story first.

ANTHONY 19:27

Well, I don't really have a story. I mean, just practicing, but I will openly admit that I did do this even I did do this even as an adult working at the further. I would say that's a good one. Oh yeah, I know.

NALEE 19:38

You talked about it. I think we talked about it in a previous episode.

ANTHONY 19:41

I think we did too. Like Yeah, because you had me do it as an example.

NALEE 19:47

Oh, I had you do it.

ANTHONY 19:48

Yeah. You had to do it.

NALEE 19:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. I don't I think I did. I feel like I probably did, but I also did a lot of what you did where like I had a practice like being sick, like, oh, I can't, like, I can't get up today. I feel so sick and um you know, I'm cold and you know, I'm not feeling good. And then I like ten minutes later, you find me eating a bag of hot Cheetos in bed. Hell yeah. But go ahead.

ANTHONY 20:20

I think the days that it worked as a child and I was able to stay home, it was great because I had it planned out where at a certain point in the day I magically felt better. And it was like, it was like, well, I'm not gonna send you to school now. So it's like you know, it's like by by 11 a.m. It's like, all right, I'm good.

NALEE 20:43

I'm all of a sudden ready to go. Running around the house.

ANTHONY 20:46

I'm like, I want some mac and cheese. Give me some sketty.

NALEE 20:50

Being a kid was wonderful.

ANTHONY 20:52

I miss being a kid.

NALEE 20:53

For me, when I didn't want to go to school for like consecutive days, because I'm a lazy ass bitch. I would, I used to always like pretend that I twisted my ankle. Cause you know me, I like I'm very clumsy, and it's really easy for me to twist my ankles.

ANTHONY 21:08

So she forgot she was walking.

NALEE 21:11

Yeah, no, literally. Sometimes I forget that I'm standing and I just tilt and I'm like, whoa, you've seen this too. Like some of the things.

ANTHONY 21:18

I've seen this now that you mention it.

NALEE 21:19

Yeah, you've seen it. I we just stand it up like, whoa. And then you'd be like, what's going on? I'm like, I don't know. I just stroked out. I stroked out.

ANTHONY 21:27

That's what we're practicing her seizures.

NALEE 21:29

Yeah, yeah. Yes. In case I get kidding out. At this point, I just might. But yeah, like I used to fake my my ankle injury because of this one specific time. We were, I don't know about you guys, but this is gonna be a tangent. But like when we were little kids, like me and my sisters, we would play tag. But to play tag, you know, we were in a living room. My parents, they're really sheltered, so they didn't really let us go outside. And so in this, in our living room, we had three, three couches. So we had a big, like the three-cushion couch in the middle, and then we have two love seats on the side. So it was kind of like a C, right? And so then in between the couches, there were spaces. And so instead of like playing tag and we would run around, we would actually crawl. So we would tag and crawl each other so that it adds more space to our like our running space, right? And so then I don't know what happened, but then there was like a toothpick, like those wooden toothpicks on the floor, and then I was crawling and then it like stabbed my ankle area. And so then my ankle like swole up, and I didn't go to school, I think for like a week because I couldn't walk. And so then after that moment, I was like, wait, I could actually use this to my advantage, and so then I ended up not going to school for like two weeks because of my ankle, because I told my mom that it was still like it was still swelling, I can walk on it. And then I think like maybe two months after, like I twisted my ankle, but uh, I was it was fine. But then, like, you know, when your parents like witnesses it, you have to be like, oh, like it hurts. Like, I can't do anything, you know?

ANTHONY 23:11

And the Oscar goes to, yeah, exactly.

NALEE 23:15

And I used to do that all the fucking time. Like, maybe that's where I got the habit of calling in now that I think of it. But anyways, yeah, for sure. I was honored. Honestly, I was saying that that may go in a little deeper than I than I need it to be, but I definitely need to work on that for sure with my therapist. Yeah. Your girl got issues.

ANTHONY 23:36

It's made me think of this time when I was a kid and I was over at my friend's house, and we were dancing around in the living room, and their brother Tommy was sitting in the chair doing his homework, and he set his homework on the floor, and I stepped on his pencil, a sharpened pencil, and the lead like went into my foot and broke. It's still in my foot. We never got it out.

NALEE 24:04

Really?

ANTHONY 24:05

Yeah.

NALEE 24:05

How do you not have can you get lead poisoning from that?

ANTHONY 24:08

No, because I don't think they use lead in pencils anymore. I think isn't it like graphite or something like that?

NALEE 24:12

I don't know, but that's shit seems painful.

ANTHONY 24:15

Yeah. Damn. So I was that just made me think about that.

unknown 24:18

And I remember.

NALEE 24:19

I've gotten stabbed by my pencils before. Like, you know how I don't know if like when you were little or when we were like high school and stuff. You know those like pencil pouches and stuff? No, no, no, no. Like those pencil, blah blah blah. Those pencil pouches where you could put it in there and then close it, or they have the sliding thing and you could put all your pens and erasers and stuff in it. Yeah, well, I used to always sharpen mine and then I'd put it in there. And I got stabbed by it once and it was not cute. But yeah, that's what it reminded me of.

ANTHONY 24:49

I didn't like the pouches.

NALEE 24:52

I didn't either.

ANTHONY 24:53

As a kid. I really like. Do you remember those spacemaker pencil boxes?

NALEE 24:57

Yeah, they still sell those at like the dog.

ANTHONY 24:59

Yeah, but they're not the same.

NALEE 25:01

They're so bulky though.

ANTHONY 25:03

Yeah. Yeah. I liked that.

NALEE 25:06

Oh no. I preferred the the pouches because they had like the three hole ones and you could just put it in your binder. Yeah. Yeah. I love that shit. I was definitely, I was gonna I was I was definitely a stationary girl.

Digging To China And Dinosaur Dreams

ANTHONY 25:22

Okay. I first of all, I don't understand why you're laughing that. Like, am I missing?

NALEE 25:26

I almost said I almost said missionary girl.

ANTHONY 25:29

You're not a missionary girl. You're a doggy girl.

NALEE 25:32

What's a doggy girl?

unknown 25:36

Let's see.

NALEE 25:37

Oh, oh, I got, I got what you meant. Actually, I prefer missionary, but that's that's in case people wanted to know.

ANTHONY 25:44

FYI for all the listeners out there.

NALEE 25:47

You're welcome. You are welcome.

ANTHONY 25:48

Nolly wants you to look her in her eyes and caress her face.

NALEE 25:53

That's hot. What do you mean? Eye contact during sex is like the best. Who does not have eye contact? Come on, guys.

ANTHONY 26:02

No, thank you. That's a no for me.

NALEE 26:04

You look into the soul of whoever's fucking you. That's the best. Be like, is this what your mama raised you to be?

ANTHONY 26:11

It's a such mama raised you to be fattest. Horrible. That is a horrible comment to say while you're being penetrated.

NALEE 26:18

I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding, y'all. Okay, what's your next subject?

ANTHONY 26:23

Believing that I could dig to China in my backyard if I had just committed.

NALEE 26:28

And I thought I was done. I thought I was dumb. I'm done.

ANTHONY 26:32

You never believe that?

NALEE 26:34

Hell no. I'm like, never take me to my mainland.

ANTHONY 26:39

No, I before I knew like, you know, all the logistics of like the layers of the earth, all I knew was, you know, you have your globe and you're here, and then like opposite end is, you know, wherever. Well, I mean, I think it would have been, I don't know if it would have been China. I don't know. But like it just made sense. If you go in one end, you come out the other, right?

NALEE 27:05

Yeah.

ANTHONY 27:06

I don't know. I thought I believed that if I would have put my heart and soul into digging a hole big enough in my backyard. The only problem was is that when I did like dig holes, you always get to a certain point. Again, this is before I knew about the layers of the earth. You get to a certain point where it's like it gets harder to dig and you can't just dig with a shovel. And I was like, all right, fuck this. I'm done.

NALEE 27:28

I will say though, I didn't think that I could dig to China, but I used to have this big belief that like You dig to Argentina.

ANTHONY 27:35

No, I'm just kidding.

NALEE 27:36

No, no, no. That like there was dinosaur borns and shit, like in my backyard. I used to dig like holes and shit just to be like, I wonder if I could find a fossil or like I wonder if I could find something that's worth money. You know what I mean? Yeah. I used to dig dirt.

ANTHONY 27:53

That was fun. I remember when I was in elementary school, we did an archaeology segment where our teacher literally like put a grid in front of the school with string. So there were little sections.

NALEE 28:08

That's so cool. Okay.

ANTHONY 28:15

Yeah, I thought that was fun. I remember that. Like the memories.

NALEE 28:26

I just had this joke for two seconds. I was trying to say something, but I couldn't think of it. And then I just like I just barfed a weird sound. So it was funny to me. But, anyways.

ANTHONY 28:41

Who says that? I just barfed a weird sound.

NALEE 28:44

Yeah, I was like that. Like I was mumbling. But what I was gonna say was it's kind of like it kind of came 360 because you know we're talking about the scholastics book fair and stuff like that, right? The first thing that I actually bought from that, I remember because I was so obsessed with it. It was like an archaeology kit.

ANTHONY 29:03

Yes.

NALEE 29:04

And it like it had, I think it had like pretend dirt or whatever in it, and then you had to use the brushes and stuff to like dust it. And maybe that's where I got that from.

ANTHONY 29:14

Is it the is it the one that you got? Like it was like a cube of dirt, and it came with like a chisel and a brush, and you had to like chisel it away and like it's a little bit.

Sleepless Partying As A Flex

NALEE 29:24

I think it was more rectangular. Yeah, but then it was it's kind of like that where like it was already pre-molded into the thing, and then the I had one of those too. Oh, look at us!

ANTHONY 29:35

Yeah, I wanted to be an archaeologist.

NALEE 29:38

Me too. Uh what the fuck? That's why I love dinosaurs.

ANTHONY 29:42

Are we the same person?

NALEE 29:44

I think we are. Are we twin? Are we twin? Twinning right now. Yeah, but yeah, I I wanted to be an archaeologist too. Yeah, but anyways, yeah.

ANTHONY 29:58

Still are we sticking with the fact that I'm just stupid to think that we could have dug ourselves to China?

NALEE 30:04

I think today we are boo. Yeah. Okay.

ANTHONY 30:07

It's fine. Fine. We will move along from this.

NALEE 30:12

All right. Okay.

ANTHONY 30:13

No more making fun.

NALEE 30:15

We had fun. We had fun when we were kids, and that's okay.

ANTHONY 30:17

Yeah, we had fun. Childhood was great.

NALEE 30:19

It was. But it's not the only crime scene. Our next no, our next segment here is we thought it was personality, but it actually was a red flag. Because why did we enter adulthood saying this is just how I am?

ANTHONY 30:35

No. This is just how you avoided therapy. Let's be honest.

NALEE 30:39

This segment is called it's not a quirk, it's a concern. No. Go ahead with your topics first.

ANTHONY 30:45

All right. Fine, which I can't do anymore, but I remember when I was like freshly 21 and like treating the whole I haven't slept in three days like it was a big major flux.

NALEE 30:59

Yeah.

ANTHONY 30:59

I don't You weren't really a big partier though, right?

NALEE 31:03

I wouldn't say I was, but there were mom there were times where like I I think we talked about like I did drink pretty early. I think it was like 14-15. And you were you said you were a late bloomer, so that's that's early for you. But other people drank when they were like 9-10.

ANTHONY 31:20

So Yeah, we in Wisconsin, that's what they do here.

NALEE 31:22

Yeah, I don't know.

ANTHONY 31:23

They take their kids to a bar. No, like for me, it was just I was like, Do you remember that that video clip that was going around? It was Lady Gaga, where she was like, bar, another bar, another bar, another bar.

NALEE 31:42

I don't think I've seen that.

ANTHONY 31:43

You haven't seen that? You have to send it to me.

NALEE 31:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY 31:47

Or no, maybe it was clubs. She was like, club, another club, another club. But that was like me. Like I would work Fridays, I would work seven to two, would work a double, I would have a break from two to four. I would go back and I would work four to eight or five to nine.

NALEE 32:03

Yeah. And then I'd sound like a long ass fucking day.

ANTHONY 32:06

I would go home, I would shower, and then I would go out to the bar that night. I would stay out till bar close, I would go to an after bar, and then that would be until like five in the morning.

NALEE 32:20

Do they even have after bars anymore?

ANTHONY 32:22

Well yeah, I mean, I mean, I would think that people do. It's always at somebody's house.

NALEE 32:27

Well, that's what you meant. Okay, okay.

ANTHONY 32:29

Yeah, because the bars close at 2 30. So then you go to somebody's house and drink more there and party it up. And then so I'd stay there till like 5, 5:30. I would go home, I would sleep for maybe half an hour to an hour, go back, and I would work 7 a.m. to 2 in the morning or 7 a.m. to 2 in the afternoon, and then I would go home, I would eat dinner, and then I would do it again on Saturday night.

NALEE 32:51

Damn. That sounds tiring as hell.

ANTHONY 32:54

But it was great. I like I wasn't tired, but now you make fun of me all the time. I'm like 8:30.

SPEAKER_02 33:01

Yeah, literally.

ANTHONY 33:03

I'm done. I don't do that shit no more. But like I remember it was like it was a big deal being like, well, it seemed like a big deal. Being like, yeah, go, go, go. I I'm young. I'm not stopping. I'm having fun. Yeah. Invincible, right? Yeah. And that's what kids like nowadays, and then that's what we always thought. We're we're invincible. We're gonna Yeah.

NALEE 33:25

I don't think I like I don't think I had like consecutive days. Like when I when I first became friends with my girlfriends now, like my girlfriends, my girl group friends, like when we first hung out, we had days where it was kind of like that, where like it's Friday, we get off work, and then we would go to the bar, we would just chill, and then we get like really fucked up. And then after that, we'd go to somebody's house, drink until like four or five in the morning, come home, and then we would rest. And then next weekend, same thing, you know? So it wasn't consecutive, but it was like consecutive weekends. And like now that I think about it, I'm just like, how did I do that? There were times when I was looking at the further where I only had like three hours of sleep. You you know this. Yeah.

ANTHONY 34:09

But you used to go out to your car and fucking sleep on your lunch.

NALEE 34:13

Yeah, which is that sounds so trashy, but I don't think it sounds trashy. Okay.

ANTHONY 34:19

But I just never understood how you could do that because I was like, I couldn't if if I was that tired, I would not be able to go out to my car, set an alarm, and sleep for a half an hour and get up. Like I would sleep right through that fucking alarm. I'd wake up at five o'clock and be like, oh, guess I'm fired because I missed half my shift.

NALEE 34:36

Guess I'm fired. I'm a light sleeper, so that helps, actually. But yeah, like I did have those days, and then like when I was younger though, we did have those times too, but like it wasn't, I don't think it was okay. I guess maybe I did. Maybe I did when I was younger. Like I was dating this guy. He he was like they were he like smoked weed, and then my sister, her boyfriend, also like they were they were drinkers, and so then we lived in Blaine and they lived in the cities, and so then on Fridays, right after work right after she gets off work and I get off school, then we'd go to the cities, because we lived in Blaine, it's about a 45-minute drive, and so then we would leave and then we would go and then we would get shit faced, and then we would like spend the night there, and then the next day, like literally right in the morning, we start drinking again. And it was like that for like pretty much, I think it was like the whole summer. And then I was I was just like, damn, like I'm drinking a lot, like I need to chill. Like at that time, you know, like when you're a kid, you're like very like resilient to like alcohol and shit, and you don't have hangovers and stuff, and you know, you could drink, drink, drink, and then be fine the next fucking day and still be able to like operate. Yeah, like at that time, I know that we did go like on a drinking binge for sure, but yeah, it was crazy. I I missed those days, but at the same time, it's just like, damn, we drinked a lot.

ANTHONY 36:07

I I was just gonna say, I feel like I see kids nowadays doing it, and I'm like, you crazy as hell, you dumb as hell. But it's also like it's one of those like rites of passage that you have to do at that age.

NALEE 37:19

I agree, I agree.

ANTHONY 37:21

And I'm like, I do miss the days when I was able to do that, and like to be able to go out again, drink all night after bar, sleep for an hour, and like work and no hangover, no issues, just tired, but you kept pushing through.

NALEE 37:37

Yeah, for sure. I think like I'm just I'm just saying this because like I feel like my brother, my younger brother, he didn't he doesn't have that opportunity because you know he Why? I think I don't know if he has like a specific group of friends. I don't think he does, but he did he's never experienced that. And then just recently, I know it's weird to go like to the clubs and shit with your sisters and them or whatever. When we're like we're literally like 10 years apart, like 11 years apart. But like a couple weekends ago, like it was his first time actually going to like the club and stuff. And it was his first time like actually getting drunk. Like we we came, he they came here, it was me, Polly, and my younger brother, and then Kiki came over, and then we we were drinking, and then we were playing games, and then I think like he was starting to get tipsy, so then we had left to go to to go play pool at the doodge.

ANTHONY 38:36

Y'all, dumb as hell. I would never set foot back in the doodge again.

NALEE 38:39

No, it's popping. The doodge is popping right now.

ANTHONY 38:42

Like they have to- The man died, Nolly.

NALEE 38:45

That's okay. Rest in peace, just don't bother me. Oh my god. We're just there to play pool and chill. That's it.

ANTHONY 38:51

But anyways, what you think he woke up and he's like, I'm gonna go to the doododge tonight so I can get stabbed.

NALEE 38:56

I don't know, he probably did. No, I don't know his life story.

ANTHONY 38:59

People be crazy as hell.

NALEE 39:01

But anyways, we went to the bar and then we were playing pool, and then I had asked the bartender to make like a really strong shot for him. Because, you know, our brother, he's really tall, and he's a bigger guy, and we drank a lot already, but I feel like he's like bigger as in, like, he's big and tall. Like he's not like super like big as in like fat, but he's just big and tall. And so then I was just like, well, you know, he's never gotten drunk before. So then I asked the bartender to make like a really strong shot. And she's like, girl, this is like really strong. Like, this is some of the strongest stuff we have. And I'm like, okay. And so then I gave my brother a shot and then he drank it, and he was like, first, he, it's always that thing of, I don't feel anything. This ain't doing nothing. Five minutes later, he's like, I don't feel so good. Like, I don't know what this feeling is. I feel weird. I'm like, bruh, you're drunk. You're drunk, dude. And he's like, I don't feel good. I feel like I'm gonna puke. And I'm just like, it's okay, keep it in, keep up, you'll be fine. It's okay.

ANTHONY 40:01

And so then we ended up going to This is almost like child abuse right now.

NALEE 40:05

No, it's not. It's a rite of passive to hang out with me, okay?

ANTHONY 40:10

You're right.

NALEE 40:11

And then we ended up going to Sheenan's downtown, and then he was like vibing with this guy, they were just like dancing. I'm like, this is so weird to see my brother dancing and vibing and stuff, but like I kind of love it for him. But I'm just like, I kind of wish he had like a group of friends to do it with where like they could just, you know, like he doesn't have to be on guard. He could just be like, yeah, I'm chilling with my friends, you know what I mean? So if y'all have any like friends who live in the cities or cousins or whatever who's chill and who vibes really well. No, I'm not pimping him out.

ANTHONY 40:48

I'm just gonna be like, You're so pimping him out right now.

NALEE 40:51

He's really cool. If you guys have want to hang out, he's he's available to hang out. I'm not pimping him out. I'm just I'm just putting it out there to like expand his friend group. But anyways, I'm not pimping my brother out. Sorry, sorry, bro. But anyways, yeah, so I don't condone this. Well, you do what you gotta do, boo. Message me privately, and I will connect y'all.

ANTHONY 41:15

My god. Which brother is this?

NALEE 41:18

This is my youngest brother. Yeah. I don't think you've met him.

ANTHONY 41:21

Yeah, I did. He was at your house. Yeah.

NALEE 41:23

When were you at my house?

ANTHONY 41:25

This was like months ago. He was over at your house.

NALEE 41:26

Oh, yeah, yeah, he was here. That's right. He was here, and then you said I, yeah. But, anyways, it was kind of fun, but yeah, I agree. Like, those days were like the best. And also kind of like, I don't ever want to be there ever again, kind of a thing.

ANTHONY 41:40

I don't think that I just want to go back to something that you said. I don't think there's anything wrong with going out with your sisters because or even your or your siblings, I should say. Because I think that that is for him, if that was his first time like getting drunk, I think that that's a wonderful experience to be with your family because you know that you're in like a protected environment.

NALEE 42:01

I guess. I don't know. I feel like for him, I don't know how guys feel like. I think because my younger brother, like obviously we have five sisters, or he has five sisters, and he's always around us. So I feel like he like maybe he doesn't say it because you know he's very nice and he's very shy, but I feel like he has that longing of like, I wanna, I wanna do things with friends, not so much with family. You know what I mean? And so then I feel like maybe he was a little uncomfortable because obviously my friends and I, like, we're a little eccentric.

ANTHONY 42:33

You think?

NALEE 42:35

So it's not it's not like tame, it's not chill, but I mean, I I felt like it was a good experience for him, but I feel like like you said, I feel like it's kind of a rite of passage to do it with do it with a group of friends, not your siblings. You know what I mean? I don't know, that's just how I feel like, but I could be wrong. I don't know. Well but I just yeah.

ANTHONY 42:54

Yeah, I see what you're saying, but I think that everybody would like at that age, obviously they'd rather be with friends, but I don't think that they're gonna have like it's gonna be a negative thing that if they go out with their siblings. My first time getting drunk was with my family. I told you that, right? Yeah.

NALEE 43:11

I mean, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying that like in the future, like I kind of want him to experience that too.

ANTHONY 43:20

Like going out with Does he have a good group of core friends?

NALEE 43:23

I don't think so. I don't know.

ANTHONY 43:26

That's why you're pimping him out. Got it.

NALEE 43:28

No, I'm not pimping him out. I'm just saying that if you guys like to have a good time, hit me up.

ANTHONY 43:34

We're not talking about for a good time with Nolly.

NALEE 43:37

Yeah, no, no, no, no. But I meant like, woohoo, like this is so bad. You know what I mean? Like, club, you know, like stupid. I'm so old. Yeah, who the fuck says that? Anyways.

ANTHONY 44:02

And then it yeah.

NALEE 44:03

No. Yeah, that was. I don't know what the fuck this was. I don't even do this. I just did it because I'd let's move on. What's your next topic?

ANTHONY 44:12

Okay, my next one was just saying that I'm bad at texting, but being on my phone. This I'm so guilty of this. I will pref I prefer to only text because it's more convenient for me as far as when I can get back to you. Plus, I just don't like talking on the phone. And I'm constantly on my phone. I think you texted me a couple times yesterday, and I was just like, girlby, I'm sitting here scrolling through TikTok.

NALEE 44:44

Yeah, I I have a really bad habit of that, to be honest. Like this whole weekend, I yeah, I have a really bad habit of doing that. I don't know. It's just sometimes it's just like it's kind of I get it, it's just I don't know. And I sound like a hypocrite because I know our first couple of episodes, I'm like, y'all bitches better check me right back, or y'all go into the gas chamber kind of shit.

SPEAKER_02 45:08

Yeah.

NALEE 45:09

But your girl's grown. It's 2026. Leave me alone. Leave me the fuck alone. Yeah. But yeah.

ANTHONY 45:17

I'm gonna sound like a hypocrite here too, because like texting is more for convenience. It's never like if it's life-threatening, call me. Fine. Like, I'm more apt to like take the call if it's like an emergency thing. But like, if you're just calling me to shoot the shit, bye. Don't do that. Text me. I will text you then. I'll get back to you when I want and when it's convenient for me. But at the same time, like, like I'll throw you under the bus right now, or I'll throw my aunt under the bus.

NALEE 46:20

Do it.

ANTHONY 46:21

Like, I would text you or text her, bitch. I know you're on your phone. I know you're on your phone because you just fucking sent me five goddamn videos on Instagram, three videos on on Snapchat, four videos on Messenger, and here I am texting you like, hey, did you do this outline? Did you do this? And I'm like, crickets.

NALEE 46:42

Like this fucking bitch.

ANTHONY 46:45

Like this fucking bitch.

NALEE 46:47

Uh yeah, I don't know why I do that. I don't know why I do that. I would like to apologize for now and for the future.

ANTHONY 46:57

I'm taking your apology with a goddamn greatest fault because I know your ass don't mean it. You fucking liar.

NALEE 47:03

I am so sincerely. I'm so sorry. I mean it sincerely.

ANTHONY 47:07

This biggest load of crack.

NALEE 47:09

I'm smiling because I mean it.

ANTHONY 47:11

Nobody smiles because they mean it, bitch. Nobody smiles when they mean an apology.

NALEE 47:19

It means it works when you're sincere. Like I'm sorry.

ANTHONY 47:23

What okay? What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on this though, legitimately, though? Like if you text me and you know that I'm on my phone, do you expect a response back right away? Or is it subject dependent upon what you're texting me?

NALEE 47:37

I think it's what it's what I'm texting about. Like for you, I know sometimes it's kind of like that too, where like I would text you and then you text back, and I'd be like, hey, did you do this or whatever? Same thing. And then I'm like, I literally just text you and you literally just answered me. What the fuck changed in within the past 30 seconds? You know?

ANTHONY 47:55

Wait, what? You literally just texted me and I literally just answered you.

NALEE 47:58

And then I asked you another question, and then you Oh, I see what you're saying.

ANTHONY 48:02

Okay.

NALEE 48:02

Yeah. And then, but then again, I think I've c become more patient where I'm like, okay, he's probably doing something. He's probably knee deep in Richard. It's fine. Let them spend their long time together. It's okay. I'm hungry too. I gotta go find something to eat, you know. But again, when it's me, it's a different story. But if it's you, it's okay. You could wait.

Ghosting And Fear Of Confrontation

ANTHONY 48:27

No, I feel like that. I feel like that is we're on the same page. Like it is dependent. Because that's the whole point of, at least for me, like the whole point of texting is I can screen it. And we've had this conversation before. Like, do I need to answer this right away? Like, are you dying right now?

NALEE 48:42

No? Okay, good. Yeah. But did you die, Brenda? Did you die? Oh my God, I'm so excited for the new one. Did you scary movie? Did you see the trailer? Yeah.

ANTHONY 48:51

I haven't seen the tr I saw a clip of the trailer, but without sound, so I have yet to watch it.

NALEE 48:57

It looks so good, but I will say there's a lot of like there's a lot of unhinged stuff in it.

ANTHONY 49:03

What do you mean by unhinged?

NALEE 49:05

Well, I think for us, I don't think it's a big deal for us, but I think like for, and I'm gonna, I'm not gonna, I'm not saying this because I'm saying people are sensitive, but I'm saying that there are people who are a little bit more sensitive to certain like topics.

ANTHONY 49:22

So Do you want to give me an example of one of said topics?

NALEE 49:25

Okay, this is not me. This is from Scary Movie trailer, okay? So I'm just saying that this isn't from me, but there's a part, like the biggest trailer part that I've seen was they're in the bus, and then it's you know the Megan doll, right? Yeah, uh the Megan doll, her her head was on this guy, and then he like pulls the masks, and it turns out to be the screen guy, and then he goes to stab her, and then she's like, Oh my god, and then he goes to stab her, and then this lady who's sitting like on the side, she's saying, Oh my god, she's gonna stab her, and then the lady who's gonna get stabbed, she's like, I'm not a her, I'm a they them. And then like So there's gonna be some like controversial stuff. Right, right, right. And so then there's that, and then there was uh there was a thing about like race. Like it was Brenda, obviously they brought but brought back they brought back Linda and uh Brenda and Cindy, and so then they were like, oh my god, Cindy, oh my god, Brenda, I haven't seen you for a long time. And then Cindy was like, Well, I guess I'm white and I'm racist now, so I can't, I guess we can't hug. And then Brenda was like, Well, aren't all white people racist? And then Cindy's like, yeah, and then they started hugging. So I'm like, ooh, dang! Like, there's gonna be a lot of stuff. That's all I'm gonna say. But it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. But yeah. You should watch it. It looks really good.

ANTHONY 50:46

No, I I wanna watch it, and I want to see the new stream movie too.

NALEE 50:50

Me too. I thought we were gonna go watch that together. We should go watch that together.

ANTHONY 50:54

Okay.

NALEE 50:54

Yeah, but let me know when. Yes.

ANTHONY 50:56

Okay. What'd you have for this segment?

NALEE 50:59

Okay, well, my first topic was ghosting because confrontation gives me the ick. I think you're just being a little bitch, is what it is.

ANTHONY 51:10

Ooh, mic drop.

NALEE 51:12

Yeah, because I feel like, yeah, you could ghost people if they've continuously like fucked you over and stuff. I get that. But if it's because you don't want to be confronted, I think you're just being a little bitch. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. To me, that's just how I feel.

ANTHONY 51:29

But you know, we said this in the beginning of the episode about like if you feel like attacked or whatever, like I personally feel attacked right now with your topic with this topic. Oh, damn. Because I don't like confrontation.

NALEE 51:43

Okay.

ANTHONY 51:43

And I am the type of person that I will do what I can to try to avoid any confrontation.

NALEE 51:50

Okay.

ANTHONY 51:51

But I do agree with you that like at certain points, grow the fuck up. Yeah. And I I will take my own advice because I've had to have conversations, you know, especially since I got my promotion at work. There have been conversations that I've had to have where I'm like, it's so uncomfortable and I don't want to have it, but you need to fucking do it. You're a grown-ass man, Anthony. Exactly. Grown ass man.

NALEE 52:15

Yeah.

ANTHONY 52:16

Fucking rip off the band-aid. It's not personal. And ghosting is the coward's way out.

NALEE 52:21

Yeah, it really is. I think it's just like.

ANTHONY 52:22

Like if that's your go-to.

NALEE 52:24

What you said was perfectly was perfect. I think you hit it on the I don't know, I think you hit the head on the nail or whatever.

ANTHONY 52:31

You hit it right on the head. You hit it right on the nail.

Blunt Versus Mean And Work Truths

NALEE 52:32

I think you hit it right on the head. But um, I think that when you rip the band-aid off and you just do it, it's something that, okay, I guess my thing is if you think that it's hard for you to confront somebody, then you should be confronting somebody about it instead of holding it in. You know what I mean? Because if you hold it in, it boils up and you're gonna expect people to know exactly what you are thinking. And it's not blues clues. Like people can't just like magically read your mind, you know. If it's somebody who really cares about you, and I've said this before, if they mind, then they don't matter, but those who matter don't mind, you know? And so if it's really that important and you need to confront them about certain scenarios, then do it. If you're not brave enough to do it and you just want to ghost them, then you're just being a little bitch. And it's gonna be your problem, not theirs.

ANTHONY 53:27

So Yeah, I wholeheartedly stand by that.

NALEE 53:30

Yeah. And I agree, I think becoming, you know, like now that we're we're moving up the corporate ladder, I think it really does help us though, on that part where like you do have a lot of uncomfortable conversations with you know, people you don't want to, but it's kind of a thing of like, again, if it's uncomfortable, then you should be having it because there's there's a bigger issue at hand. And if you just ignore it, then it's gonna bubble up.

ANTHONY 53:59

So yeah, I agree with that. I still don't like confrontation though.

NALEE 54:05

I don't know. I feel like I feel like it is what it is. I think I've come to a part in my life where I'm like, I like you think you can hurt me, bro? You think you can hurt me? You know, kind of like that, or it's just kind of like I'm gonna say what I have to say, but then again, there's also a way that you carry it. Like if you're just being a bitch and you're just like trying to confront everybody because you think you're the baddest bitch, then okay, that's a different story. But then if you're coming from a place of like concern or actual like you're being genuine about whatever you're talking about, then yeah, that's fine. Again, if you're just being a bitch to be a bitch, then fuck you too, you know? But fuck too. Yeah.

ANTHONY 54:43

I think there's there is a way, depending upon the situation, to confront somebody without making it confrontational.

NALEE 54:51

Right. It's definitely the delivery of it.

ANTHONY 54:53

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Okay, look at us.

NALEE 54:58

We're be we've been twinning this whole episode. Okay. Proud of us, proud of us. Okay.

ANTHONY 55:03

This is me pulling my hair like you just did.

NALEE 55:06

Did you uh did you have anything else to add to this topic before I go to the next one?

ANTHONY 55:10

No. Go ahead, go ahead.

NALEE 55:12

Okay. The next topic that I wanted to talk about is saying I'm just blunt when you're actually just mean. I think that's probably the my one of my biggest pet peeves that I've recently discovered.

ANTHONY 55:26

I feel so fucking attacked.

NALEE 55:28

No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Just blunt. You know what I mean?

ANTHONY 55:33

So you're referring to people who like use it as an excuse. Right. Okay.

NALEE 55:37

It's not like I'm I you're saying that I I'm blunt. Bitches who use that as an excuse to be like, oh, I'm just blunt, but they're actually just being a mean ass bitch.

ANTHONY 55:44

No, you're just being a fucking bitch.

NALEE 55:46

Right. So I think that is like one of my biggest pet peeves recently. And if you say oh, go ahead.

ANTHONY 55:53

No, go ahead.

NALEE 55:54

Well, I was gonna say, if you say that you're blunt and you're being a bitch, I will call you out on it. And I will be like, okay, well, you're not really blunt, you're just a bitch.

ANTHONY 56:03

I agree with you. And those are the people that need like a good like slap in the face, swift kick in the ass, like a good dose of fucking reality. Yeah. Because they're so self-absorbed and so unaware that they don't really see what they're doing and like their actions.

NALEE 56:23

Yeah, they definitely need to be humbled for sure, those type of people.

ANTHONY 56:28

Yes.

NALEE 56:28

They fuck with the wrong bitch, they gon' see.

ANTHONY 56:31

Okay. That okay, because I didn't know where you're going with this one. That's why I was like, girl, let's let's.

NALEE 56:35

I know you wrote, I'm officially my biggest red flag of my life.

ANTHONY 56:39

I'm officially the biggest red flag of my life because I'm like, I'm very blunt in my delivery, especially once I know you. Like, I'll sugarcoat things and I'll dance around things with like, you know, my team at work or like people that I just meet on the street or people that I've just been introduced or just started working with. But like, if you know me and we're good friends, I'm not gonna sugar. I'm gonna I I've had this conversation with you before.

NALEE 57:06

You've seen it like in real life. Y'all heard it in real life. Yeah.

ANTHONY 57:10

I deliver in real time whether or not you agree or want that viewpoint. Yeah, and I love to deliver the truth.

NALEE 57:20

I love that. I think that's one of your greatest qualities is that you're like, even if I tell you, it's not a red flag. I think it's your biggest flex. And that's because when people are like that, period. When people are like that, they're genuine. They're genuine, and they're, you know, it's the thing of being kind. I'm gonna be kind to you and I'm gonna tell you how it is, compared to being nice and just saying what's nice and not being honest about it. And that's honestly one of your biggest flex. You know, you're you're blunt, but you you say with your chest, and you don't mean any ill will from it, and you're not just being a fucking bitch.

ANTHONY 57:57

I just had this conversation with Richard the other day, and I think I kind of touched base on it with Deja too.

NALEE 58:06

Hey Deja. Hey Deja. Hey girl.

ANTHONY 58:10

But like we were talking about. Well, this was really me and Richard talking about this now that I think about it. Um, we were talking about like politicians and how I do believe that sometimes people go into politics for the right reasons. But it's almost like at some point they just get consumed and wrapped up in everything that they lose themselves.

NALEE 58:34

Yeah.

ANTHONY 58:35

And I was saying, like, that was part of the reason like I would consider going into politics, is like I don't feel like I would lose myself, and I'm so strong in my convictions, and I'm so like blunt, and I feel like I'm for people. Like, even at like work, like I'm always like thinking about like what I can do to make my team's job easier. Okay, so I did have this conversation with Deja, and it wasn't like politics, it was just corporate work, right?

SPEAKER_02 59:02

Yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY 59:02

Corporate workplaces. You have people that are on the top of the command and the top, they have no clue what the person at the bottom is doing and like how they do their job, but they're dictating how they do their job.

NALEE 59:15

Yeah.

ANTHONY 59:16

I really, I'm really big on this and like wanting, I've mentioned this before to you, is like I want to get in a position where I can kind of bridge that gap between the actual staff on the front line doing the job and higher level management, leadership, whatever you want to call it.

NALEE 59:35

Yeah.

ANTHONY 59:36

Because there is that disconnect. Leadership management says, I want the people on the bottom to do it this way, regardless of how it, you know, affects or or how it works. And so I guess what I was just getting at is that I really am. I'm blunt, but I'm blunt from for the right reasons, and I'm always looking out for the underdog or it's you're being genuine.

NALEE 59:58

It's coming from a place of care. It's coming from a place of intention, not I'm word vomiting. Yeah. At least you're not sound vomiting like I was earlier.

ANTHONY 1:00:11

I can if you play your cards right.

NALEE 1:00:13

Well, you were like at the very beginning. But we can't.

ANTHONY 1:00:18

I'll leave it in.

NALEE 1:00:20

Yeah. Yeah, but I I agree with you on ever every aspect. I do think that you're a blunt person, but in a good, in a good way. And in a good way. So yeah, you need people like that. For me, I don't know. I feel like I am sometimes, but I feel like I'm also a pot stirrer. So you know what? It is what it is.

ANTHONY 1:00:38

Girl by I will I'm gonna put all my eggs in your pot stirring basket because that's all you is.

NALEE 1:00:43

Wow. But you know what?

ANTHONY 1:00:47

You're the bitch sitting there in the theater eating the popcorn. Yeah, you stir the pot, and then you eat the popcorn.

NALEE 1:00:52

I bring good conversation. I bring up good points, I bring up that of it all. I'm the equilibrium of it all. You think so? I think so. I think I I think I play a pretty good middleman. I don't I try not to be biased.

ANTHONY 1:01:07

Yeah.

NALEE 1:01:07

Yeah. I like to keep the peace.

ANTHONY 1:01:09

You do like to keep the peace. Yeah. But this that kind of ties into what your previous topic was about like confrontation. Yeah. Because are you keeping the peace because you want to avoid the confrontation or are you keeping the peace because it's genuinely like the right thing to do? Because versus versus just being blunt and telling Melissa, it ain't big, huh? It ain't big.

NALEE 1:01:30

Well, it could be big for her. But I think you guys already know. I think I take I take both sides very carefully. I try not to be biased, but I do also voice my opinion where where I stand. And then I'm always like, either take it or leave it, but this is where I'm at. You know what I mean? That's just I feel like that's who I am. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:01:51

You've I feel like you've been doing that a lot more late.

NALEE 1:01:53

What would I mean?

ANTHONY 1:01:54

Like like voicing your opinion and like I don't know. I feel like the last year, two years, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:02

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:02:02

Has really been you uh s kind of stepping out and like evolving.

NALEE 1:02:08

Yeah. I heard this beautiful quote the other day. Or maybe it might not be the same. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:02:13

I feel like I'm watching Khloe Kardashian's Snapchat story right now.

NALEE 1:02:17

But I don't think it's exactly how it is, but I'll say it like how I want to say it, I guess. Right now, I'm a seed that has been potted and I'm I'm growing. Okay? Isn't that beautiful? I'm a seed that's been potted and now I'm growing.

ANTHONY 1:02:31

I'm fucking dead right now.

NALEE 1:02:33

The past two years was me being potted, getting watered, and right now I'm blooming. Right now I'm growing. I'm in I'm in the midst of, is that how you say it? Mists. Myths. I don't know. I'm in the middle of blooming. So yeah.

ANTHONY 1:02:49

I'm fucking dead.

NALEE 1:02:51

But yeah, I will agree to that. I think before I was more of the like, oh, like, okay, oh, that's how you feel. You know, it's okay. Like it's fine if you feel that way. Yeah. And, you know, I have some agreement to that. So we're just gonna stick with that. But right now, I think obviously with the past couple of years that's that I'm finally entering adulthood, like actual adulthood. I think I've come to not really give a fuck about what people think. And I s I'm trying to stick to my guns. And I think yes, praise Jesus. But I think that's me trying to be the most authentic you. The yeah, the most authentic me instead of trying to like agree with everybody. Honestly, I feel like I've kind of created a rebel inside of me because a lot of people don't really agree with the things that I do. But it's also that thing of like, I don't need you to agree with what I do though. I'm doing it because I want to do it, and I'm doing it because I need to do it for myself. Whether you agree to it or not, whether if it's out of the norm, bitch, you wasn't in my shoes, kind of a thing. Like, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. And if I fail, then I do, I'll get up and try again. And, you know, I'll learn my own lessons. You don't need to do it for me. Like you're not responsible to keep me from danger. You are just supposed to be there to support me. And that's all you can do. Because whether you want to or not, and whether you want me to do it or not, I'm gonna do it if I wanna do it. I'm not gonna do it if I don't want to do it.

ANTHONY 1:04:21

You know, that's the one thing that I've learned about you is that you're gonna do whatever the fuck you want to do, regardless of. Yeah. Even even if it's like the most irrational, like logical thing to do, if you're committed, you're committed. There's no talking about it.

NALEE 1:04:40

I and the thing is, like, I'm the type of person where yes, you could warn me, you could give me all the good signs, and I will, I will, I will take that into consideration. No, you won't.

ANTHONY 1:04:53

You don't even take it into consideration. If your mind is made up, your mind's made up.

NALEE 1:04:58

Noah.

ANTHONY 1:04:59

You could be like, you could be like, I got five dollars in my bank account, and I can get four dollars and ninety-nine cents worth of tacos from Taco Bell, and I could be like, Nolly, you really need to save that five dollars because your bill for such and such is due, and you're just gonna be like, Thank you for giving me your advice. Deliver in the next 25 minutes.

NALEE 1:05:22

Okay, you know what? Yeah, I that's what I love about myself, though. And people may not agree, but that's what I love about myself. Yeah, and the thing is sometimes you have to take the risk of losing that 590 naff with a tackle bell. You know what I mean? Like you have to do it because I'm the type of person where I like to see things through.

ANTHONY 1:05:45

Like whether it's good or we're gonna see things through. We're gonna see if they're gonna turn off my electricity or not.

unknown 1:05:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

NALEE 1:05:55

Exactly. It's the it's the clarity for me. Like, I need I know exactly what you're talking about, but bitch. But you know what? You know what? I am here to support anybody's delusion. I'm here to support anybody's like delusion. That's all I'm gonna say. But at the same time, I will take it with caution. I will be like, mm-hmm, I see your point, but I'm gonna go this way. But I want my taco bell. Right. And while I'm in the process of going this way, I am still thinking about your your your opinion, but I'm still walking this way. Thank you. I appreciate the thought. It's a consideration. Thank you for considering me, but I'm still gonna walk this way. And and if I break my leg, I expect you to support me.

ANTHONY 1:06:41

Just and just for clarification, I just want to let everybody know that I don't support Nolly's delusion, but I support her decision. And I support, and that's where my bluntness comes in. Is like I I may not support your delusion, but I will support your decision. It is what it's your life, you do what you gotta do, and I'll wholeheartedly support you, but I'm still gonna call you out on your delusional bullshit.

NALEE 1:07:07

Yeah, and I love that. I love that. That's that's how it should be. I think that's how it should be. Like, you know, if I do something stupid and crazy, but I have to do it, regardless of if you think it's right or not, tell me your two cents, give me your two cents. Again, it's not gonna seem like it, but I will take it into consideration. Still gonna do what I'm gonna do. But again, thank you for, you know, putting in your giving me your input because that's the important part, is that you're actually giving me input compared to somebody who's just like, oh yeah, girl, go do it. Go do it, go do it.

ANTHONY 1:07:41

I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't gonna lie to you. I eat Thanksgiving. That's all I'm gonna say.

NALEE 1:07:46

Exactly. I know, I know what you're talking about. I know, I know, I know, I know, but I know I know, I know, I know, but still, and you know, obviously, people who who know, know. If you know, you know, if you know, like I said, if you know, yes, I'm the type of person where like if I have my my like if I've made a decision, I've made it, but I will also consider all the other things while I'm in the process of doing that decision. Why?

ANTHONY 1:08:15

Yeah, once you've already enacted what needs. Yeah.

NALEE 1:08:19

But that's the great part of it, is that even if it doesn't pan out, or even if I do it, the only thing you are responsible for as a friend, and I've said this before, is that support, is that hey, you know what? You tried it, it didn't work, it's okay, I'm still here for you. That is the core basis of being a friend, being a support system, being a community. And you you're exactly that for me. Like, you let me do my delusion, you let me do whatever I needed to do, get it out of the way, but at the end of the day, you're like, Hey, you need to come home. Let's let's wrap it up. Let's let's go home. You know? And that is to me, is more valuable than anything. Because you're willing to call me out of my shit. You're being honest with me, but you let me do my thing. And then at the end of the day, you're like, it's okay. Let's, let's, let's get moving. You know, come back home. Yeah, exactly. Compared to the case.

ANTHONY 1:09:09

I'm still gonna call you dumbass hoe.

NALEE 1:09:11

Yo, I believe you. I would be like, actually, you're not the dumbass hoe.

ANTHONY 1:09:14

Bitch, you're dumb as hell.

NALEE 1:09:16

But I got, you know, I got what I needed to get out of that. And that's that's the thing that I'm saying is that whether you support somebody or not, when their mind is made up, and I'm speaking, i.e., example of me, when I have my mind made up, I'm gonna do it. Whether you die, whether you do whatever, I'm I'm gonna do it. But I just need you to be there as a support when I when I've done the deed. And, you know, whether or not it was a good or dumb or smart decision, at the end of the day, you're still at the end of the line clapping for me. That's that's all it is. After you get done doing the deed, I'll be there clapping for you. Yeah. I don't I didn't do anything. Not my deed was not that, guys. It was not that. I was not doing nothing like that. But again, if you know, you know. I'm a I'm a child of God. I have class. I don't do that.

ANTHONY 1:10:09

For fuck's sake. No, I gotta get my waiters on. Can I stop you and interrupt you right now?

unknown 1:10:14

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:10:15

I just have to s no, I just have to say, your boobs look really amazing in that shirt right now.

NALEE 1:10:21

Oh no. Don't look at my boob. No.

ANTHONY 1:10:25

Oh, here we go. She's shy again, everybody.

NALEE 1:10:28

Thank you. My mom blessed me with good boobs. You're welcome.

ANTHONY 1:10:32

That shirt, no, that shirt looks really good on you.

NALEE 1:10:33

It's like actually.

ANTHONY 1:10:36

You look really good today.

NALEE 1:10:37

I thought I looked like trash, but thank you.

ANTHONY 1:10:39

Okay. I know you said that when you were in the shirt that you had on before this, but I mean I look like trash before, too. No, no. You never look like trash. You're welcome.

NALEE 1:10:49

Thank you. I appreciate that. My boobs, thank you too for the little call out there.

Adulting Spiral And Cringe Memories

ANTHONY 1:10:54

Yeah. All right. Listener, she's actually intentionally doing this. We need more viewership.

NALEE 1:11:01

That's a good idea. Actually.

ANTHONY 1:11:04

I was gonna say no fucking denial. Yeah, I actually.

NALEE 1:11:08

Actually, let me let me sit up a little bit. There you go. Push them together. Should I do a little hop? Okay, we shouldn't do this. This is inappropriate, y'all. Back up.

ANTHONY 1:11:16

Bend and snack. Kids are watching this.

NALEE 1:11:19

Kids are watching this.

ANTHONY 1:11:20

The hell they are. I put every I put an 18 plus on all of our updates.

NALEE 1:11:25

Hell they are. Okay. No, we're not. Look at you pimping me out. Excuse me, sir.

ANTHONY 1:11:31

I'm not pimping you out. I'm just saying.

NALEE 1:11:33

Okay. Let's not talk by my boob. Let's go on to the next subject here. All right. Do you have anything else to add?

ANTHONY 1:11:39

No, I think that was a really good discussion. I mean, I really like the, you know, just being blunt and saying that that using that as an excuse when you're just mean, I think. It's unfortunate because that like I like that kind of reflects poorly on people who are blunt for like me. How I'm blunt with intention.

NALEE 1:12:02

But I think Whoa, excuse me. I don't know about other people, but I feel like when people are being blunt just to be a bitch, I could tell. And that's when it irks me a little bit. Where like I'm like, oh, okay. You know?

ANTHONY 1:12:17

Can you always tell with me?

NALEE 1:12:19

Well, with you, we're I think we we understand each other. You're sarcastic. I'm also sarcastic too.

ANTHONY 1:12:24

Very sarcastic.

NALEE 1:12:25

And like I think I just understand you, like your your verbiage, and I understand like how you talk very well. So when you're being blunt, I'm like, oh, okay, he means business. And I think you you're not just blunt to be blunt, you're being blunt to have intention. Yeah. Right. Because you you are very, you're very intentional. Like when you say something, you have like a reason why you're saying it. You're not just saying it to say it, kind of a thing. Like me. I have that where I'm just fucking blabbing just to blab. But again, that's something I appreciate about you. You are very, you're very thoughtful. I think you are very caring and you're very intentional.

ANTHONY 1:13:02

Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. But to answer your question, no, that's all I had. I don't have anything else for this. Shall we shall we move on to our next segment? I think we shall. Adulting or just freestyling?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:19

Wow. Where's both?

ANTHONY 1:13:22

There we go. That's what I was needing. Yes. Let's let's talk about adult habits.

NALEE 1:13:29

Ugh, I'm not ready for this.

ANTHONY 1:13:30

This is gonna be the best thing ever. None of us are ready for this, but that's kind of the point.

NALEE 1:13:35

Like, who gave us independence, really? Like, I want fucking names, please.

ANTHONY 1:13:41

You and me both, because some of the things that we're doing daily now. Hmm.

NALEE 1:13:46

Yeah, should have been flagged like that. The thing that happened in November. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:13:50

Yeah. Yeah. I tried to c I tried to warn you, baby girl. I tried.

NALEE 1:13:54

No, it was it was the best thing that's ever happened to me.

ANTHONY 1:13:56

So I I think that it was a good experience. I think we're not gonna obviously go into details about it, but like I think the reasoning behind it was bad. It's a little dolulu. It was a little dolu. Girl, bye. That was that was fucking delusion grandeur. But I think the outcome and I think the experience in itself for you.

NALEE 1:14:18

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:14:19

What is the silver lining that came from all of that?

NALEE 1:14:22

No, I think that trip was like a very big turning point in my life.

ANTHONY 1:14:27

Yeah.

NALEE 1:14:28

I think I came back a different person for sure.

ANTHONY 1:14:31

Thousand percent.

NALEE 1:14:32

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:14:33

But you still delulu as hell.

NALEE 1:14:35

So that's why y'all love me.

ANTHONY 1:14:37

That's why we love you. You're not wrong about that.

NALEE 1:14:39

I make things entertaining. That's what I'm here for.

ANTHONY 1:14:42

That you do. I will give you that. It's never a dull time when you're when you're involved.

NALEE 1:14:47

Mm-mm.

ANTHONY 1:14:49

I bring the party. You bring the party. What did you have for this section?

NALEE 1:14:55

Okay. So the first thing I wanted to talk about was letting one small inconvenience ruin your entire personality personality for four to six business days. This is completely me. I will spiral for days, weeks, months.

ANTHONY 1:15:11

Twins.

NALEE 1:15:11

Yeah, and it it's just like I can't shake it off, you know. It's just it's because, you know, I think it's because we're overthinkers. So we that's why that's the issue. And obviously, this is why I go to therapy to like break it down a little bit, but there's definitely something deeper there. But yeah, I think it's one part is overthinking, and the second is for sure my anxiety.

ANTHONY 1:15:36

Yeah, I'm the exact same way. And okay, this may not be like I I've been thinking a lot about this lately. Okay. This is not uh necessarily a small inconvenience, but it's like just I wouldn't say destroyed, it's ruined my personality to a certain point. I received a message from a really good friend of mine the other day. And you know, we've had that conversation where you can remain really good friends, and like even if you don't see each other for years, and then when you do see each other, it's just like getting right back into it, like no time's passed.

NALEE 1:16:10

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:16:11

So I have a really good friend like that, and I got a message the other day, and they were like, hey, you want to go out and get dinner? And I was like, Yeah, that would be really great, because it's been I don't know how many years since the last time we had dinner. But it kind of drudged up this whole this I shouldn't say this whole, but this one event that I had experienced that I still have nightmares about. We worked together and we used to play pranks on each other, and I played a this was such a poor prank. I took her car keys.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:41

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:16:43

My shift ended, and I I left work to go to my second job, and I get a text message. Hey, asshole, where are my car keys? I was like, Your car keys? Why the f Oh my fucking God. I had her car keys, we I was we were waiters. Okay. I had her car keys in my apron in the backseat of my car, and here I am fucking 25 minutes away.

NALEE 1:17:07

Oh my god.

ANTHONY 1:17:08

That haunts me. It lives rent-free. That's probably not necessarily what you were talking about.

NALEE 1:17:12

But did you do it as a prank or was it like accidental?

ANTHONY 1:17:15

No, I did it as a prank and then I forgot about it. And I hate you for work. Mm-mm.

NALEE 1:17:21

So did you end up going back, or did you like it?

ANTHONY 1:17:24

Yeah, she had to leave. Her shift was over. She wanted to get going.

NALEE 1:17:27

I hate you.

ANTHONY 1:17:28

I yeah, she hates me. She hated me for that.

NALEE 1:17:32

Valid.

ANTHONY 1:17:33

That it was valid. Nikki.

NALEE 1:17:35

Nikki, you deserve to be mad at Anthony. I'd be pissed at him too.

ANTHONY 1:17:38

Yeah, she was pissed at me. Um clearly, I'm pissed at myself. I still think about it. That was literally over 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:47

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:17:48

And I still fucking think about it. It still haunts me, yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:52

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:17:52

Yes. And I still think about the whole thing. And I remember speeding in my car, driving down 53, fucking whipped into that parking lot, and then I had to go back to work after that.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:03

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:18:04

But anyway, not necessarily a minor inconvenience, but it just ruins it. It counts because it counts, yeah.

NALEE 1:18:11

Yeah, it counts. If you're losing sleep over it, yeah, it definitely counts. Hell yeah. Even if it's a small inconvenience.

ANTHONY 1:18:16

To be young and stupid again.

NALEE 1:18:18

Yeah. For me, it's more so things that I've said. Like obviously the story about me having cancer to my upper bound advisor, that shit eats me up. Even now when I talk about it, it eats me up. Ugh. I was such a stupid kid.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:33

Yeah.

NALEE 1:18:34

Um I think I've said a lot of like, I wouldn't say a lot of mean stuff, but I've said some hurtful things to people that I probably shouldn't have. Like to me, I thought that I was being a smart ass, but when I think about it, I was actually kind of it's kind of like a bullet. I was being a bitch. No, I was being a bitch.

ANTHONY 1:18:51

We there was Do you think that you're you think you were being a bitch because of what you said or because of how you said it?

NALEE 1:18:58

I think it was how I said it because I didn't mean I meant it as a joke, but I think sometimes my delivery is off. Y'all already know my delivery's not the best. Yeah. So, like, this is upper bound again, but we had an advisor, I forgot what his name was, but he was like, I don't know if you've been in upper bound, but in the summer we have like summer class kind of thing. And so then each each advisor, they would come and pick us up from our house and take us to the college. And so then the guy that was driving us, I think he was new that year. And we like I will say, I think I low-key had a crush on him. And I'm kind of the I'm those dumb bitches where like I will bully you to show you that I like you kind of thing.

ANTHONY 1:19:41

I'm gonna throw my shoe at you because I think you're cute.

NALEE 1:19:44

Yeah, but pull your hair. Yeah, or pull my hair. But I think at that time, like I was also going through like a breakup. So then I was just kind of a bitch, I think. And so then we I think like we kind of got to know each other, obviously, because he's our advisor. And so then there was a time where we sang to we were listening to like I think each time, like each day he comes and pick us up, like a new person would get to be like the DJ or whatever. And so then this is this is unnecessary detail, but I'm gonna say it anyways. You guys know the song by West Life? I forgot, I forgot how it goes, damn it. But it's a song by West Life, and we both singed it together. And he was singing the guy solo, and then well, there's not guy solo, but we were singing like every other line. And so then like people were like making fun of us that oh, like you have a crush on him, blah blah blah blah. And I kind of did, but then again, like you know, he's like an adult and I'm a child. I'm like in school. Um in high school. How old were you? I was in high school. I think I was like, I was a junior. Oh, it was the song More Than Words. Have you heard that song? No, West Life? No, but anyways, it's a good song.

ANTHONY 1:20:54

Um was the guy?

NALEE 1:20:56

I think it was like 20, 20 something, maybe 25, 26. I don't know. This is just me assuming though. I think that he was 25, 26. But I was like, I was like 16, 17. But anyways, it wasn't that big a deal. It was just my own personal delusion in my head. But anyways, we sing West Life More Than Words, and we were like saying every other line, and I was like, oh wow, you have like a really good voice. And he's like, Yeah, you have a really good voice too. And then I don't know what happened, but like I think a couple weeks after that, like I may have said something really mean to him. And I think I don't know if I am the reason why he stopped coming, but I that summer was like his last summer. And I think what I said to him may have been like really offensive. I don't remember what I said, but I know he was clearly upset about it because when I said it, like his face turned red. And I was like, fuck, I shouldn't have said that because I think I might have gotten him mad.

ANTHONY 1:21:52

Okay, so you don't know what you said, but like do you know like what was it about?

NALEE 1:21:56

I don't remember, but I know that it probably wasn't nice.

ANTHONY 1:21:59

And it was something that was like your sarcasm that you were.

NALEE 1:22:03

Yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY 1:22:04

Like I said, failed.

NALEE 1:22:07

Yeah, I said it in a joking way, and then I think he was just like I think he got offended by it, but he obviously he's an advisor, he can't like say that. And so then he was just I think if I remember correctly, he said something like you shouldn't be saying that or something like that. But I know for sure that he was like upset because his face turned red and he did look upset. And so then I'm like, fuck, like I shouldn't have said that. I'm like, I didn't say sorry either, because again, I was like joking about it, but I didn't think the delivery came out right. And so then I think like after because what happens is we go on this, like we go on this uh summer trip or whatever. We go, we take a week and we go, I don't know, to like St. Louis or whatever to go look at colleges and and so then after that trip, like he stopped. I think he stopped coming because he was also a tutor for us at that time. But then he stopped coming, or maybe it didn't work out for him. I don't know, maybe I'm making this up in my head. I don't fucking know. But then that come that fall, our advisor was like, Oh yeah, well, he's not a tutor anymore. And I was like, fuck. Maybe I did something wrong.

ANTHONY 1:23:16

Maybe he didn't want to be a tutor anymore so that he could book.

NALEE 1:23:19

He's so stupid. He was engaged, he was engaged, and honestly, I don't think. Oh, I'm sorry.

ANTHONY 1:23:25

I didn't realize engagement and marriage meant people don't sleep around. Okay.

NALEE 1:23:29

I don't know. I mean, you could you he could if he's available, like hey, what's up?

ANTHONY 1:23:35

Do you remember his name?

NALEE 1:23:36

I don't remember his name. Mylla probably does though. Cause she was with me. We're we were the Was she crushing on him? I don't think so. I think she had a boyfriend at that time.

ANTHONY 1:23:45

Just because you're chained to the fence doesn't mean you can't bark at the cars, bro.

Procrastination And Pressure Productivity

NALEE 1:23:48

Oh no, Mila, she falls deeply in love with people's. She was not an open, uh, she was not an open doigt. But yeah, that moment, that little interaction, yeah. I'm always like, damn. I don't know if it's me or not. You know, it is what it is. And I've said a lot of stupid stuff. Y'all already know. I've done a lot of stupid things as far as like hurt people's feelings.

ANTHONY 1:24:09

It's not the brightest star in the box.

NALEE 1:24:12

It's less stupid. But I'd like to take this time to formally apologize for anybody that I've hurt verbally. I know this mouth can can say a lot of mean things.

ANTHONY 1:24:22

I won't apologize for my actions. Sorry.

NALEE 1:24:25

You won't?

ANTHONY 1:24:26

Hell no.

NALEE 1:24:27

Oh, okay. Well, I'm saying that so that I could release it. You know, I'm letting it out. I'm sorry, y'all, but sometimes I I say yeah, sometimes I say what I mean, but sometimes, you know, I'm a stupid kid and I say stupid stuff. So that's what I'm gonna chack it up to be. What about you? Anything else you want to add to this topic? Any follow-up questions? Because I feel like you always do.

ANTHONY 1:24:48

I don't think that I really have any follow-up questions. The only thing that I want to say is, and this kind of falls on this topic, is like recently Richard's been giving me a hard time because like I'm I'll say things and then I'll be like, just kidding. Damn it, Richard. And he's like, and now he's like, it's at the point where he's like teasing me. He's like, Oh yeah, you're just kidding. I'm like, if after 15 plus years you don't know my personality to know when I'm kidding and when I'm not, what are we doing?

NALEE 1:25:19

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:25:19

What is wrong with you, bro?

NALEE 1:25:22

I had a comment, but I'm not gonna say it because it's gonna, I'm not gonna be able to sleep at night. So I'm gonna hold it in. Say it. Maybe it's because he's getting older.

ANTHONY 1:25:34

I hope you can't fucking sleep tonight. I'm just kidding.

NALEE 1:25:37

I love you, Adrian. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

ANTHONY 1:25:40

No, maybe No, I do get it because I do like I will say that a lot. Yeah, it's me. I'm the problem. I'm not gonna lie. I think it is me. But at the same time, it's like, okay, well, I'm sorry. I guess I'll just change my whole personality and I will just be Noah.

NALEE 1:26:00

We can't have that. Like sarcasm. I love your sarcasm.

ANTHONY 1:26:03

Thank you. You're a very good thing. You're the first person to ever complain about my sarcasm. Hear that, Richard?

NALEE 1:26:07

Maybe maybe he doesn't understand it. After 15 years, I don't think he's still here.

ANTHONY 1:26:12

That's what I'm saying. How do you not understand it after that long?

NALEE 1:26:16

Yeah. You got something to say, Richard? Polo.

ANTHONY 1:26:19

It's not clocking, bro.

NALEE 1:26:20

It's not clocking.

ANTHONY 1:26:21

Yeah.

NALEE 1:26:22

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:26:23

Okay. What else?

NALEE 1:26:24

Okay, and then my other topic is, and I'm notorious for this, saying I work better under pressure, but it's just anxiety procrastination.

ANTHONY 1:26:32

Like this whole episode, and like everything that you're picking, you're like targeting me. You're throwing me under the fucking bus right now.

NALEE 1:26:39

I mean, throwing myself under the bus.

ANTHONY 1:26:42

I yeah, with this one, I've literally been attacked by every single topic that you've picked this episode.

NALEE 1:26:48

I think it's a you problem.

ANTHONY 1:26:50

It's a me problem. I'm a red flag. I'm a walking red flag.

NALEE 1:26:54

Somebody just You are.

ANTHONY 1:26:56

Yep.

NALEE 1:26:57

Do something. But well, anyway. Yeah, that's I mean, if anybody knows me, I'm like the queen of procrastination. I just, I just honestly, I believe that I really do work better under pressure. Like, wholeheartedly, I don't think it's procrastination. I think that's just that's just how I've always functioned. And it's like, it's a very hard habit to get out of. But then again, I like do really good at it too. You know what I mean? So it's like a hard habit to die.

ANTHONY 1:27:24

Because you're really good at procrastinating.

NALEE 1:27:26

Yeah, because honestly, like when I procrastinate, like shit, just it just turns out. It just, you know, like compared to something where I would have planned it, do this, do this, do this. Like, it turns out not how I like it. But then when I procrastinate, it's just like, damn, it's like it's in the stars. It came out perfectly. You know what I mean? I don't know. Maybe that's just my justification of my laziness.

ANTHONY 1:27:53

Okay, but I have a question for you.

NALEE 1:27:55

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:27:56

And I I'm this is coming from like personal experience. Yes, like I'm the exact same way. Procrastinating, I feel I work better under pressure.

NALEE 1:28:06

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:28:07

But yeah, things will work out. Things do work out, but do you feel like things could have worked out better? Or do you think that they worked out to the best that they would have had you not procrastinated?

NALEE 1:28:19

That's a good question. We will wait until that happens and I'll answer you.

ANTHONY 1:28:23

I know that I like on the things that I procrastinate on, I I know that they can be better.

NALEE 1:28:28

Yes, obviously they can be better. Like, for example, like packing, right? I could be getting on top of that shit, but I'm not. Because at the end of the day, it's gonna be better when I procrastinate, you know?

ANTHONY 1:28:42

I'll tell you this right now. If I get what if I get a call within 48 hours before your move out day, we're gonna have a problem.

NALEE 1:28:50

Yeah. We're we're good. I think it'll work out.

ANTHONY 1:28:52

No, but if you do need help, just let me know.

NALEE 1:28:54

Yeah, that's my big thing, is that like I let the uter that's probably the worst thing to rely on, but at the same time, it's never like proving me wrong. You know what I mean? Like, I'm like, I'm always like, I'm gonna let God do his thing. Or I'm gonna I'm gonna leave it to the Lord's, Jesus take the wheel, and Jesus always takes the wheel. He always does, you know? And maybe I shouldn't have to do that. Be careful.

ANTHONY 1:29:16

One of these days, he's gonna take that wheel and he's gonna sort you into a goddamn tree.

NALEE 1:29:20

You take whatever the fuck you just said and shove it up yours. No. But but uh Jesus will always take the wheel. I'm a child of God and he's he's looking out for me. But yeah, I agree, you know. I always have plan A, plan B, plan C, but plan A is always procrastination.

ANTHONY 1:29:42

Yeah.

NALEE 1:29:43

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:29:43

I agree.

NALEE 1:29:44

So, but then again, aga that's when you become really good at procrastination, is when you have other plans, even if the first one doesn't work out.

ANTHONY 1:29:52

So Yeah, and I don't I I think procrastination isn't necessarily a bad thing. Yeah, but at the same time, you really need to, God, how do I want to say this? So it's it's it's it's a weapon that you need to wield and use appropriately.

NALEE 1:30:09

Yeah, I agree.

ANTHONY 1:30:10

And I think you hit it right on the head, like you can't, it's it's a very hard habit to break.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:14

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:30:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:15

Yeah, I agree.

ANTHONY 1:30:17

I'm the exact same way. I'm exactly like you. Like I'll I always tell myself that I work better under pressure, and then I'll put things off and I'll put things off. But then I'm neglecting in the back of my mind, and this is where it does go wrong for me, is like, okay, so I've put off m this 10-page report that I have to do, and now it's due tomorrow. Okay, well, now I have to do a 10 page report to do tomorrow. I also have to read 30 pages. Of course, I'm talking about like in in high school, because obviously I don't have homework, but like, okay, so I have this report that's due tomorrow. I have 30 pages that I need to read for this class. And it's almost like it's a trickle down effect. All these other things are now coming into play that I have to have done tomorrow on top of. Whereas had I just done the paper three weeks ago when it was signed to me, over the course of the three the three weeks, I wouldn't have eight, ten things that I need to accomplish by tomorrow.

NALEE 1:31:10

So again, go ahead.

ANTHONY 1:31:12

No, go ahead.

Organized Chaos At Home

NALEE 1:31:13

Oh, I was gonna say I really wish I was like that though. I really wish that I was disciplined enough to do it when I need to. I got no I got no sense of discipline. I have no discipline. No. That's why I'm thick. Because I'll be eating like there's no tomorrow. I'd be eating like it's World War III the next day. Same. So and I really wish that I was disciplined. I think it's really hard. And I've I'm working really hard on that right now. I think that's one of my biggest goals is to be a little bit more disciplined. But I don't know, sometimes though, I don't know about you, but and again, I'm I shouldn't rely on this, but it's always compared to what you were talking about, well, like your three plate page essay, or let's say we had an exam the next day. My brain just works differently. Like if I was to cram it all in one night, I would probably like, if anything, ace that test the next day. But if I was to wait and study throughout the week, I'd forget everything. You know what I mean? And then I'd be like, I get a worse grade. And I've test that throughout high school, where I would study for, I don't know, four days prior to the test, and I'd I'd get a worse grade. And then I would cram it all in one night and then I'd ace it. So I'm I'm just like, why does my brain do that? So then I think I've come up become accustomed to be like, oh, she got this, she got this, you know?

ANTHONY 1:32:32

Yeah. And I think like again, using the whole high school experience or the school experience, I think that it's one of those things where it's you just have to whatever works for you is what works. So I'm a big believer in like it's not one size fits all. Like do what works for you. And if that's what works, go for it.

NALEE 1:32:53

Yeah, it's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's not necessarily a good thing either.

ANTHONY 1:32:57

No.

NALEE 1:32:58

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:32:59

It's to each their own.

NALEE 1:33:00

You do you boo. Yeah. Yes. All right. What were your topics?

ANTHONY 1:33:04

Well, did you have anything else that you wanted to add to either of yours before I because I was living for this segment.

NALEE 1:33:11

Yeah. I think I don't have much to add onto this. I think we are I think we've said this, you know, in our very first episode and a lot many after that, but you know, we're just surviving and just trying to figure it out. You know, give yourself grace, but not too much grace, I guess. Don't be crazy like me, okay?

ANTHONY 1:33:35

Yeah, never be like, yeah.

NALEE 1:33:40

Okay, what are your topics?

ANTHONY 1:33:41

Okay. So again, let's take a deep breath.

NALEE 1:33:44

I'm an attacking yourself.

ANTHONY 1:33:48

Well, I am actually attacking myself. Okay, okay. Um but just kind of branching off kind of what you had just said about like how your brain works and how my brain works is like, okay, so having a clean pile and a dirty pile, but no actual system. I don't know if you're like that, but I like not even not necessarily just like laundry, but just like the house in general. Like I like to believe that I live in an organized chaos.

NALEE 1:34:13

Okay. I love that.

ANTHONY 1:34:14

It like certain things may seem like messy, but like you ask me where something is, I'm gonna know exactly where it is.

NALEE 1:34:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

ANTHONY 1:34:20

I I always used to have like my grandma hated that. So it was like she was constantly and it makes it sound like I live in like a dirty house. I don't think I live in a dirty house.

NALEE 1:34:29

Your house is not dirty. No.

ANTHONY 1:34:31

Organized chaos. But like my grandma would like always clean and like move things, and it would be like, hey, where is you know, my game boy? I don't know. I saw it just the other day. It's like, yeah, I had it right here. Oh, well, I cleaned and I moved, where did you move it? And then I don't know where things are. But like again, I live in an organized chaos. Like right now, I have clean laundry in my hamper and dirty laundry on the floor next to the hamper because I haven't put my clean laundry away. Yeah. It's just like I have no actual system, but it makes sense in my head. And I know who things are and I know where things are. Are you like that in any way? Or am I just I'm kind of like that.

NALEE 1:35:12

No, no, no, no. I'm kind of like that where it's like it's like for your example, it's like you have a clean and a dirty l pile. Yeah. And it's just prioritizing, right? For me, it's kind of like, I don't know how to explain it, but I know what you mean. I'm kind of like that too. It's like I may have I'm not talking about my room, but it's kind of the example of like my room could be a mess, but if you were to tell me where my black sock was, I can immediately imagine it in my head and go to grab it right away because I know where it's at. You know what I mean?

Avoiding Bank Accounts And Autopay

ANTHONY 1:35:47

It's literally like the most perfect definition is it's organized chaos.

NALEE 1:35:51

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I obviously I think I could improve, obviously, but it ain't gonna happen because what? I'm 33 years old, 32, almost 33 years old, and I'm still You're so young. You know, bye. Um, I'm still like, you know, it's everything's crazy, but then at the same time, it's like I know what it I know what it where things are at. You know what I mean? Exactly what you said, organized chaos.

ANTHONY 1:36:19

And again, like we just got done discussing, like if it works for you, it works for you.

NALEE 1:36:23

Right.

ANTHONY 1:36:24

Like, excuse me. Yeah, I don't know. It's like Richard has his own way of doing laundry, and I have my own way of doing laundry for all, you know, for the sake of this this topic as far as like clean pile, dirty pile.

NALEE 1:36:40

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:36:40

Like if it works for you, it works for you. Just do what you gotta do.

NALEE 1:36:43

Yeah, I guess my Oh, go ahead.

ANTHONY 1:36:45

No, go ahead.

NALEE 1:36:46

Go ahead.

ANTHONY 1:36:47

I was just gonna say I'm just happy to know that there's other people like that, and I'm not just crazy.

NALEE 1:36:52

Yeah, you're not crazy. I was just gonna say my example would be like if the living room was messy and the kitchen was messy, I clean the living room and I'd be like, okay, I got the kitchen tomorrow, kind of a thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. Instead of like, okay, now I gotta do them both together.

ANTHONY 1:37:07

Like I feel like that is kind of where I that's kind of where I struggle with Richard because he's very like OCD, anal, clean, clean freak.

NALEE 1:37:19

He got time though. Chill, Richard, chill. He got time. I know that's what I'm saying.

ANTHONY 1:37:23

I'm like, okay, I'm sorry that it's taking me like two hours to like wash the dishes, but it's like it will get done. Well, what are you doing?

NALEE 1:37:33

What are you doing? You know, like you could help out, Richard. I heard that your knee's fine now.

ANTHONY 1:37:38

No, because he does, he does so much, but it's and that's not what I'm getting at. I'm just getting at like, just know, like, if I say I'm gonna do dishes, I'm going to do the dishes.

NALEE 1:37:47

You're gonna do it. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:37:48

And no, it may not be done in 30 minutes, but it will be get done. I will do the shit. You know what I mean?

NALEE 1:37:54

Yeah. It will be get done.

ANTHONY 1:37:56

It it will get done.

NALEE 1:37:57

Just back back up.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:59

Back up off the fuck up off me.

NALEE 1:38:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:04

Move, bitch. Get out of the way. Get out of the way.

NALEE 1:38:07

That's what's up. Yeah, exactly. Oh, Richard.

ANTHONY 1:38:11

Anything else you want to add to that before I move on to my second?

NALEE 1:38:14

Nope. That's it.

ANTHONY 1:38:15

So my second topic, and I chose mul more than two for this segment, but my second topic is avoiding checking your bank account because ignorance is self-care. Oof. Girl.

NALEE 1:38:30

Yeah. Ooh, that hit home. That hit home. So even now. Yeah, it really is. I think I'm again I'm manifesting that we win the lottery so that we can't actually be ignorant about our bank account. But yeah, that's it's the thing of like, you know exactly how much you have, and then you know exactly how much you spent. You know the number, but when you see it, it makes it a reality. You know what I mean? So it's just like, you know what? I know how much I have in there, I'm not gonna even look at it. It's disappointing.

ANTHONY 1:39:01

Yeah. And here, here's where my problem is is like I will look at it. I I've never been good. And I know that I'm I've talked about this before about like balancing checkbooks and like learning in elementary school. Yeah. But I've I've never been good about balancing my checkbook. And you know what the problem is? I will wholeheartedly blame the problem on the whoever invented debit cards and credit card machines. Because I have that account on so many, you know, my debit card on my phone. I have my debit card linked to everything. I'm not gonna be like, oh, I got a notification that Netflix has taken out. Go to my bank, register, and like make sure to deduct it. Like if it was just a checking account and just a checkbook, that's one thing. Because then I could be like, all right, Walmart,$25. Here's the check. Put it in my register and like keep track of it. But I'm not-if I can keep track of all these accounts that are like taking money out of my account. So it is easy for me to just be like, okay, my paycheck was this. I know that Netflix is this much and that's coming out. Okay. Yeah. And like just self-deduct and be like, I always have like, or I typically always have like a rough estimate of what's in my account, right?

NALEE 1:40:13

Yeah. But I just feel like we pay for so many things, it's hard to keep track. Like in one day, even if you don't even know it, like you're getting like four different bills. You know what I mean?

Feeling Behind And Timeline Anxiety

ANTHONY 1:40:25

It's just yeah. And again, it's specifically linked to like our debit card and all these places that are and I'm not saying that this is a bad thing, but all these places that have like auto pay, they set you up for auto pay.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:37

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:40:39

And the frustrating thing is it's like, okay, Netflix may come out on the second. And then you got fucking, I just had I totally spaced about this, but I just had a payment come out from my from my hospital visitor. Like, I totally forgot that I was set up for auto pay with them. Yeah. And I'm like, and that, you know, they're all these different days throughout the month. It's like, can't just can I just is there any way that I can just consolidate everything?

NALEE 1:41:02

I think you can though.

ANTHONY 1:41:03

And just be like, here, one payment once a month.

NALEE 1:41:07

I think you can.

ANTHONY 1:41:08

I think you can consolidate like credit cards and like things like that. But there, I don't think that there's any way to consolidate, you know, Hulu, Netflix, Disney Plus, Amazon. Yeah. My my medical bills.

NALEE 1:41:22

Your calendar, boo-boo. That's what it's for. Use your calendar.

ANTHONY 1:41:25

I have one. I create I like every year I'll create a calendar. I've been doing this for the last two years. I created a calendar in Canva, and I like I have all my bills throughout the month and then my paydays, and then I never I really need to do that.

NALEE 1:41:38

And then I'll I got my planner for nothing. I haven't used it.

ANTHONY 1:41:41

I know how I that's the I will say, because we've had that conversation about having a planner and like using it appropriately.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:48

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:41:49

I will I'll buy a planner. I buy planner after planner after planner, and I like I have good intentions and then I'd never use it. But I will say that that calendar for my bill pay has been extremely helpful.

NALEE 1:42:00

Good for you.

ANTHONY 1:42:01

Yeah.

NALEE 1:42:01

That's what's up.

ANTHONY 1:42:02

That's what's up.

NALEE 1:42:03

That's what's up.

ANTHONY 1:42:04

So that was my second topic is like just trying to avoid it's just a bitch because of all the auto pays, and I blame it on the debit card.

NALEE 1:42:12

Yeah, just avoiding to remember that you're poor. That's the reality of it.

ANTHONY 1:42:17

Legit. Legit.

NALEE 1:42:19

That's so sad. But you know what?

ANTHONY 1:42:21

I'd be living paycheck to paycheck.

NALEE 1:42:23

2026. I don't I don't blame you. I think everybody, honestly, I think like a lot of us are living paycheck paycheck to paycheck.

ANTHONY 1:42:29

Yeah, a lot of Americans.

NALEE 1:42:30

If you could save buddy, good for you. You know, we're gonna win the lottery. We're manifesting that. And once we win the lottery, there will be signs. You know? There will be signs.

ANTHONY 1:42:44

So what was that? There will be signs.

NALEE 1:42:48

There will be signs. Like I'm putting it forward. There will be signs. Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:42:52

Oh. Is that what you're doing? Okay.

NALEE 1:42:54

Yep. You know. You know. If you know, you know. You know. Did you want to talk about your next topic?

ANTHONY 1:43:01

Yes. So my last topic, and I struggle with this one, and we've kind of touched base on this before on past episodes. But like thinking everyone secretly has life figured out except for you. Like, have you ever felt like that?

NALEE 1:43:14

Hell no. If anything was yeah, if anything was to prove that nobody got their life together last year, 2025, because everybody's in the shithole. Everybody was in the shithoe.

ANTHONY 1:43:25

You got me there.

NALEE 1:43:27

Yeah, there was nobody, nobody in the world that like had a good year. And if you did have a good year, a fuck a you. But yeah.

ANTHONY 1:43:35

A fuck you.

NALEE 1:43:36

A fuck a you.

ANTHONY 1:43:37

I don't know. I I struggle with this because like, and granted, it's one of those things where it's like, especially when it comes to social media, everything again, everything's curated.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:47

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:43:48

But like seeing people who like, I think we talked about this last year, but like I'm really struggling with like trying to find out like what is my passion, what drives me. And so when I see people, and yes, Josh, if you're gonna come for me, yes, it is partly jealousy. But like seeing people who like know what they want in life and like they're doing it. Yeah, I'm jealous of that. I would love to be able to know what I what is my passion in life, what do I love doing? And I'm like, bitch, I'm middle age at this point. Like, let's be honest. I'm like middle age. What the fuck was that?

SPEAKER_02 1:44:22

Sorry, it was one of my notifications. You must be that loud. Sorry.

ANTHONY 1:44:26

But yeah, I'm like, I struggle with this because I'm like, You're like scared, you're like, whoa.

NALEE 1:44:33

Sorry. You were like, whoa, what the fuck was that? Yeah, but sorry.

ANTHONY 1:44:37

But yeah, it's like, what do I gotta do? I wanna, I wanna know what my passion is.

NALEE 1:44:41

I wanna know what sell your booty ho. Sell your booty ho.

ANTHONY 1:44:44

No, ma'am, that's okay.

NALEE 1:44:46

Like this close, like this close.

ANTHONY 1:44:49

But I'm not even talking about just like financially or like professionally, but just like in life.

NALEE 1:44:55

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:44:56

Like there's this guy that I follow on TikTok and Facebook, and like taking professional and like the career out of it, like he loves baseball. He is a baseball player through and through. Okay. He's passionate about it. And I like sometimes I'll see things like this, and I'm like, and he's like, I don't know, fuck 24, 25. And like he knows that like if if he could join, you know, some major league baseball team, he probably fucking would. But I'm like, I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, I don't have anything like that in my life where I'm like that passionate about it.

NALEE 1:45:31

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:45:31

And so it's like, I don't know.

NALEE 1:45:33

I think the thing is, here's the thing.

ANTHONY 1:45:36

Here's the thing.

NALEE 1:45:37

Yeah. We haven't said that today. We haven't said that today at all. So how to break the barrier. I think I think you're being a little too harsh on yourself. Oh, yeah.

ANTHONY 1:45:48

No, I know that I'm being too hard on myself. And I think not to interrupt you or cut you off, but I think that this is this is like some sort of mental trap from when I was younger. This yeah, you know, we said I made the joke earlier. I'm like that you should discuss that with your therapist. This is something that I need to discuss with my therapist. I'm not gonna lie.

NALEE 1:46:05

Have you tried discussing it with her?

ANTHONY 1:46:07

I have bigger fish to fry.

NALEE 1:46:09

Oh, okay.

ANTHONY 1:46:10

There's other things that are more important that take precious.

NALEE 1:46:12

I think this is a pretty big fish to fry too, though, because it It probably would have been like 10 years ago, but now I'm midlife. I think that's the perfect time to talk about it, actually. From my current experience, that's was the issue. And I think, you know, obviously I don't gotta say a lot, but I think that's I think when you put off something that has because this isn't the first time. I'm gonna therapize you a little bit. This isn't the first time that you brought this up. I think you may think that it's minimal, but I actually think it's a really big thing for you because we've talked about it several times on the pod, outside of the pod. It's been a conversation that we've had continuously. And you may think it's a it's not a big fish to fry, but I think you should at least mention, you know, a little bit of it, a little bit of it, but a little bit of it to your therapist. Because I think as much as you don't think it's affecting you, I think it is.

ANTHONY 1:47:06

No, I a hundred percent think it's affecting me. And I don't, I'm not trying to minimize it. I'm just saying that there are bigger issues that I want to address that need to be addressed.

NALEE 1:47:14

Okay. Good for you. Yeah at least you you're acknowledging that there's something there.

ANTHONY 1:47:19

I'm not gonna be trying to be ignorant about it by any means.

NALEE 1:47:23

Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to blow up on you.

ANTHONY 1:47:26

God, fucking bitch.

NALEE 1:47:31

Bitch is my middle name, thank you very much. Bitch. But yeah, I think I think that's I think that's a very big hurdle for a lot of us to get to pass because you know, you're seeing all these people, great things are happening to them, and you know, good for them.

ANTHONY 1:47:49

Like taking away from that.

NALEE 1:47:53

They're having kids, and you get you get a dumbass choice.

ANTHONY 1:47:56

I'll stop you right there. That's a bad choice. But that's for other reasons. You get fucking never mind.

NALEE 1:48:05

We know how you feel. But I think that again, I'm gonna make this about me again, but I think this past year, I feel like I feel like I was feeling that, but I think that I've gotten myself out of that mindset because the thing is everybody is going at their own pace, and it's that quote that you know, I'm sure you've seen it. You could you could fail at twenty twenty-five, you could start again at 33, you could be divorced at 36, and you could get remarried at 40. It's kind of that thing. I think you just have to figure out your own happiness within your own timeline. And you know, you could use me as an example. My life has been a fucking shit show, you know?

ANTHONY 1:48:54

And yeah, both of ours.

NALEE 1:48:56

Um, yeah, and I don't think honestly, anybody's at that nobody's ever gonna be on the same timeline, even when you're in a relationship, even when you're in a friendship. Thousand percent the the important thing that you have to remind yourself is that again, you are blooming.

ANTHONY 1:49:14

You know what I'm gonna say to this? This is gonna and this is gonna be the final thing that I'm gonna say on it. So I know that I'm not the only one that that experiences this or is that is feeling this. I think that it's very common for people to feel this. And I'm gonna point the blame and I'm gonna push blame right now on school, on the education system. I don't think that I wouldn't have this timeline in my head. I think it all started when I was in middle school, high school when they start when they started with the you need to go to college. I think that's where the whole timeline started for me.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:50

Okay. Interesting.

ANTHONY 1:49:52

Just because they were like, you gotta go, you gotta go to college, then you're gonna graduate college, then you're gonna get a job, and then you're gonna get a, you know, you're gonna get your degree, you're gonna get a job, you're gonna have your family. And that was that was the start of here's the standard timeline that you should follow, right? Yeah. So now that timeline is ingrained in my head. And when I'm here, you know, I think it probably like I think I started realizing it when I was 30.

unknown 1:50:20

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:50:21

I was like still waiting tables, and it was like, I should have a job by now. I should have had my degree by now. And then I see people that I went to high school with that, you know, they graduated and they're doing this and they're doing that. And then it's it's that whole comparison, that comparison structure that we have in our society.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:38

Okay.

ANTHONY 1:50:40

I I don't need you to say anything. I'm just saying that's my reasoning, that's my rationale. And I'm gonna blame the school system for instilling that timeline in me. And now it's stuck in my head, and now here I am almost 40, and I'm like, I got a podcast with 13 listeners.

NALEE 1:50:57

Look at me now, world. Okay, I'm gonna therapise you.

ANTHONY 1:51:02

I don't want you to therapise me.

NALEE 1:51:04

Oh dang. Is this rejection? Rejection is redirection. I'm gonna redirect you then.

ANTHONY 1:51:10

I'm gonna do like what's his face did. I can't think of his name right now, Michael. I I don't know if you watched the no rapapoor. Michael Rappapoor. I don't remember that. I I was watching, I watched the Traders and I just watched the Traders reunion this weekend. He goes, I'm talking, when I'm talking, you're not talking, clip. When I'm talking, you're not talking, clip. Just kidding.

NALEE 1:51:38

Do you want me to talk or do you not want me to talk?

ANTHONY 1:51:41

Go ahead, bring it on.

NALEE 1:51:42

Okay. Well, I was gonna say, bitch. I was gonna say that you know when you're explaining Sorry, I'm gonna do this real quick. You know, when you're explaining, I was just watching you, listening to you, and I think this is me just thinking.

ANTHONY 1:52:00

Tread carefully.

NALEE 1:52:01

I think it's because you feel like you don't have control over things. That's why you're stressing out about it.

ANTHONY 1:52:07

Oh, 100%. I don't have control over anything.

NALEE 1:52:10

Yeah.

ANTHONY 1:52:11

I mean, I have control, I have control over my own actions, like a hundred percent.

NALEE 1:52:16

Yeah, yeah. But I'm saying you can't control what's happening, and I think that's what's frustrating you. Like you you have I think the thing is you're not meeting your own expectations of what you thought you could have had by this age. And because you can't control what's been happening. Bitch bite.

ANTHONY 1:52:34

Tell me something I don't know.

NALEE 1:52:35

Oh, okay, dang. Okay. I'm sorry, Shonda. Shonda Rhymes, I'm sorry.

ANTHONY 1:52:41

Okay, Shonda, now we got a scandal.

Listener Confessions And Closing

NALEE 1:52:42

Yeah. Yeah. Now we got scandal. But I haven't heard that in a hot minute. We used to say that all the time at the further. But yeah, I think that's what it is. And you know, I'm glad. I'm glad that you know that. Well, I'm gonna tell you something that you don't already know. So good for you. The therapy is doing something. But I just want to say again, I think you are doing an amazing job wherever you're at right now. Bitch. Don't give me the fuck. I fucking hate you. Don't give me that look. I was trying to give you I'm trying to have a moment here. How okay? But I'm just saying that like I think you're doing amazing. I think wherever you're at, even if it's not what you want it to be, I think it's fine. Oh yeah. As long as you're not eating dirt and you're not having to sell your booty hole, which is very close to where I'm at right now. But you know, that's a discussion for another day. But you know, like I think you're doing amazing. I think you are amazing. I think you have a lot of amazing stuff coming your way.

ANTHONY 1:53:55

We do.

NALEE 1:53:56

Yeah. And you continuously surprise me. So I'm I'm proud of you.

ANTHONY 1:54:02

I'm just kidding, I ain't gonna fucking cry.

NALEE 1:54:04

I know you kick kids for fun. I mean, you don't kick kids for fun, but you'd like to.

ANTHONY 1:54:10

Let me I would not kick it. No, let me just I want to go on the record and say I would not kick kids.

NALEE 1:54:16

Yeah, Anthony does not kick kids. If he had the opportunity to, oh, will he? Yes. But he don't do it. He don't do that. He don't do that on a regular day, okay?

ANTHONY 1:54:26

I wouldn't just do it. It'd have to be warranted.

NALEE 1:54:28

Girl, don't do it. I'm not gonna do it.

ANTHONY 1:54:32

That's it.

NALEE 1:54:33

That's it. But yeah, regardless. I feel the same way too. I don't think you're the only one who feels that way. But I think I've definitely gone out of that mindset. I could probably go back into it, I don't know, the next couple of months, but as of right now, I'm just kind of like, you know what? Fuck order, fuck whatever. Like, you know, it it's never gonna be-fuck order.

ANTHONY 1:54:56

I need order. I need structure.

NALEE 1:54:57

I understand that. And I think at one point I kind of was like that, but it's just like everything's gone to shit. So I just my reality of it is that like, you know, if it's if it's within my control, then that's what I'm gonna worry about. And if it's something I can't control, I'm not gonna even lose sleep over it because at this point, why? You know, why?

ANTHONY 1:55:18

Yeah, you're right. You're right. I don't lose sleep over it by any means. It's just it is what it is. Yeah, it sucks. It just sucks. It sucks.

NALEE 1:55:26

But embrace the suck.

ANTHONY 1:55:28

Embrace the suck. What is that from? That's from a movie.

NALEE 1:55:31

It's from the one with Vanessa Hus Vanessa Hutchins and like it's like the last movie that Mary Kate and Ashley did, whatever, whatever, whatever twin it was called. It's like something.

ANTHONY 1:55:43

It was Mary Kate Olsen and she played a witch.

NALEE 1:55:46

Yeah, it was something beauty.

ANTHONY 1:55:48

Yes. Yes. Okay, yeah. With Alex Petifer.

NALEE 1:55:52

Yes. Oh, he was so hot.

ANTHONY 1:55:54

Yeah.

NALEE 1:55:56

Yeah. What happened to him?

ANTHONY 1:55:58

I don't know. I I don't I feel like he got blackballed from Hollywood for some reason. I don't know why though.

NALEE 1:56:04

Was he an abuser?

ANTHONY 1:56:05

No. Alcohol, maybe? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Well, that's all I had. You want to bring us home, Nolly?

NALEE 1:56:14

Yeah, I do. But really quick, I want to. It was called Beast. Beast. Beastly. Beastly, that's what it's called.

ANTHONY 1:56:22

Beastly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mary Kate Olsen. Brace U.

NALEE 1:56:26

Yes.

ANTHONY 1:56:26

Yeah.

NALEE 1:56:27

Okay. Well.

ANTHONY 1:56:28

Okay.

NALEE 1:56:29

If you've listened to this and thought, wow, I did most of these, like Anthony did.

ANTHONY 1:56:34

You and me were brave for staying.

NALEE 1:56:36

And if you didn't relate at all.

ANTHONY 1:56:38

You're fucking lying.

NALEE 1:56:39

Straight up.

ANTHONY 1:56:40

Straight up. There's no way you didn't relate to at least one of our topics today.

NALEE 1:56:45

Yeah. If you're human, you would have related at least to one of these things.

ANTHONY 1:56:49

Yeah. But anyway. Megan.

NALEE 1:56:51

Megan. Josh. Send us your weight. Is that is that oh my god, I can't even talk. See, this is when you know that it's the end of the episode. Send us your weight. That's not normal. Confessions.

ANTHONY 1:57:06

Because we know for a fact that someone out there thought it was normal to rewatch the same show 47 fucking times just for emotional stability.

NALEE 1:57:17

Or rehearsed fake arguments in the shower and win every time. I do this shit so fucking often.

ANTHONY 1:57:24

I do this and it's such a fucking pleasuring feeling when you know that you've won every time. An argument with yourself.

NALEE 1:57:31

Every time.

ANTHONY 1:57:33

Or if you create an entire entire imaginary interview scenarios while doing the dishes.

NALEE 1:57:39

Oh, I love that. Guilty tap. Yeah, same. But we are building a safe space for unhinged realizations. And if y'all haven't even caught on to that, I can't.

ANTHONY 1:57:48

Neither can I. What are we even fucking doing?

NALEE 1:57:51

Exactly.

ANTHONY 1:57:52

Growth is a realizing you were and continue to be chaotic.

NALEE 1:57:57

Healing is laughing about it.

ANTHONY 1:57:59

And therapy is probably next.

NALEE 1:58:03

Alright. See you next week on Quick Time. Bye.